From Behind the Razor Wire in Kalifornia

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by CA357, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    This is what we face in the Socialist Republik of Kalifornia. There are so few Second Amendment supporters in office, that we are under continual attack. For those of you that live in America, be grateful you are allowed more freedom than we are. Here's an email I just received from the NRA:

    Status Update on Anti-Gun Bills in California

    Unfortunately, several anti-gun bills have passed in their chambers of origin and have moved to the opposite legislative body for consideration. These bills must be stopped and your help is needed!

    The following bills have passed in the Assembly and are now in the Senate Public Safety Committee. Please call AND e-mail members of the Senate Public Safety Committee urging them to OPPOSE AB 144 and AB 809. Contact information for the Senate Public Safety Committee can be found here.

    Assembly Bill 144, introduced by anti-gun Assemblyman Anthony Portantino (D-44), would change the state’s gun laws and prohibit law-abiding citizens from carrying an unloaded handgun openly. There are currently only six states that do not allow for the open carrying of a firearm. California is the ONLY state considering banning open carry. In fact, many states are considering legislation to loosen the restrictions on gun owners by allowing law-abiding citizens to carry a firearm without a permit. AB 144 passed in the state Assembly by a 45 to 29 vote. This bill is currently scheduled to be heard in the Senate Public Safety Committee on Tuesday, June 7.

    Assembly Bill 809, introduced again by F-rated Assemblyman Mike Feuer (D-42), would establish a state registration system, similar to the one currently in place for handguns, for all newly-acquired rifles and shotguns. Under AB 809, the make, model and serial number of the firearm as well as the identifying information of the purchaser would be recorded and kept on file by the California Attorney General’s office. AB 809 passed in the state Assembly by a 44 to 2 vote with 34 members not voting. The roll call vote is not available at this time.

    The following bills have passed in the state Senate and are now in the Assembly Public Safety Committee. Please call AND e-mail members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee urging them to OPPOSE SB 124, SB 427, SB 798 and SB 819. Contact information for the Assembly Public Safety Committee can be found here.

    Senate Bill 124, introduced by anti-gun extremist state Senator Kevin De León, would create a broadly expanded and technically flawed definition of handgun ammunition which would encompass virtually all rifle cartridges. It would also ban the possession of many types of rifle cartridges and make it a felony to possess them. SB 124 doesn’t stop there; it could also ban virtually all non-lead ammunition used in California by reclassifying them as “armor piercing.” If this bill did not already make owning a firearm difficult, an amendment was added by the bill sponsor to further add more problems for gun owners. SB 124 would also require the registration of ammunition and banning of mail-order ammunition. This bill would have enormous ramifications for California gun owners and sportsmen to include a complete ban on hunting in the California condor zone in which the use of lead ammunition is prohibited for hunting. SB 124 passed in the state Senate by a 22 to 16 vote.

    Senate Bill 427, introduced by Senator De León, would force licensed state ammunition retailers to obtain a special local license to operate in municipalities. These retailers would also be required to notify local law enforcement before conducting business within their jurisdiction. Anti-gun activists are determined to take away gun ownership piece by piece and this bill targets ammunition. SB 427 passed in the state Senate by a 22 to 14 vote.

    Senate Bill 798, introduced by Senator De León, would treat air and BB guns the same as a toy gun by requiring the entire exterior surface of the device to be white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple as the predominate color. BB guns are not toys and should not be treated as or manufactured like a toy. SB 798 passed in the state Senate by a 21 to 16 vote.

    Senate Bill 819, introduced by F-rated state Senator Mark Leno (D-3), would allow Dealer Record of Sales (DROS) funds to go to the Department of Justice to help pay for the enforcement of California firearm possession laws. The DROS fund monies were originally collected from every firearm purchaser to pay for the administrative process for background checks. However, these funds have been raided to help the Department of Justice pay their bills. As a result, the DROS fund will certainly run out of money. When it does, what will be their answer to this problem – another increase in the fees for background checks. SB 819 passed in the state Senate by a 22 to 16 vote.

    Please forward this alert to your family, friends and fellow gun owners and urge them to also call their state legislators to OPPOSE these anti-gun bills.

    This alert is posted to NRA-ILA :: Status Update on Anti-Gun Bills in California



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  2. dog2000tj

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    You need to move ... again ... and fast! ;) What will it take? :confused: ;)
     

  3. CA357

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    Insane isn't it. We're only still in CA because I can't get my wife to make the move out of here.
     
  4. masterPsmith

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    Tied down with the house and can't afford to move. Been wanting to move to a free zone for many years, but I will probably die here where I was born. It would be nice to die a free man.........................


    Jim............
     
  5. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I know what you mean. Living here gives serious meaning to the phrase "Molon Labe!"
     
  6. dunerunner

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    Solved my problem with California. I sold my home in 2006, took my retirement checks and moved to Oregon!

    The legislators in California don't have a clue, they think they are buying the anti's votes, but what it comes down to is "It is the economy stupid!" Drive businesses out of California and jobs go with them. Oppress the populace and they move out of state, reducing revenue.

    Did they all go to school at U.C. Berkeley?
     
  7. Cory2

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    Tennessee has some very nice gun laws... pretty much if you get a carry permit than you can own as many firearms as you want and carry/transport them however you want (including rifles)... and the permit is easy to gets.. its shall issue

    We have reciprocity permits with toooooooooons of other states. (excluding kalifornia indianna and illinois) and the rest recognize our permits. and, atleast around here, virtually no one has signs saying guns arent allowed... except in knoxville, but its a city and to many idiots live in big cities for them to have intelligent laws and rules.

    ...Also, down here we call knoxville (around 100k population) a "big city" lol
     
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  8. dog2000tj

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    Chloroform the wife! ;)

    Burn down the house (make it look like an accident :cool:) Take the isurance money and run! ;)
     
  9. Trez

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    You only need to move one state over.... ;)
     
  10. opaww

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    I say don't move out of commiefornia, but rather group like minded people and take back the state. It was once a great place
     
  11. CA357

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    I'm a member of Gun Owners of California and the Calguns Foundation as well as the NRA and Gun Owners of America. I take my Second Amendment rights very seriously.

    The gun owners here are fighting the good fight. However, the leftist bastards run the State and we haven't been able to unseat them. Their strength and voting bloc is centered in San Francisco L.A. and Sacramento. That's where the welfare/entitlement/something for nothing class is largest and where the liberals who sell that philosophy are centered.

    Then there are the liberal enclaves like Marin County, Napa Sonoma and even places like where I live, Sutter Creek. The entire coast is a bastion of liberalism as well. We are outnumbered, out-legislated and treated like second class citizens while illegal aliens are afforded rights that the left would deny to us. San Francisco is a "sanctuary city" for crying out loud, and L.A. may as well be with Villaraigosa as mayor and a proponent of Aztlan.

    Staying and fighting may eventually mean just that.
     
  12. Sniper03

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    Isn't it amazing that all of these idiots have a (D) after their names!
    Wake up America. I am not saying that all the ones with the (R) after their names are all good either. But we need to start electing people who represent the majority of American principles, morals and certainly our Second Amendment Right. I hear what Opaww is saying and I understand the thought. But California is a lost cause. I own a law enforcement training company and we do classes all over the US for most major city, metro and government agencies. And even the California Law Enforcement Post is a burecratic power happy group. And will not even allow good training to come to California for the biggest part.
    We have been requested by many major departments in California to come and teach our classes. And done only two because of the literal harassment by California Post. But since they are power happy and do everything in their power to keep any company that is not based in California out. Including Ronnie Barrett's Company. So we have had a night mare and as of next year we have too many great states and people we provide the class for, so F-EM. We will not be doing anymore business there. They will not even honor the officers certifications should they go to another state and attend the classes for official certification. Another story was when I worked for a weapon manufacturer. The state of California wanted us to send 5 Custom 45 Pistols for a destruction test (MSRP) of $1600. So they could attempt to destroy them so they would know if they would pass their standards so they could be sold in California. Our answer was the same as the above F-em! I have several friends in California and many have moved out. If I lived there and there was any way to get out! I would be gone. Most of the officers there I know can not wait to retire and move. So even though I wish there could be a change out there I think the mind set of the majority is to ingrained. Kind of like the idiots that wanted a change in the last election. Bottom line regarding the government of California that is one F-up State.
    No disrespect for my friends and fellow officers!

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  13. CA357

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    I would leave in a heartbeat. Sadly, my wife is ill and this is where she's happy. So this is where I'll stay.
     
  14. JTJ

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    A long time ago the State Senate was county based just as the US Senate is state based. The Senate was Republican so the Democrats put a measure on the ballot to base the Senate on population. It passed and Kalifornia became a Democracy. A Democracy will not survive as it is strictly majority rule. As soon as the Majority figures out they can vote themselves a free lunch, it is over. The only way Kalifornia will get out of the mess is to go back to the old system. That will not happen with the Democrats in control. I still dont think it was legal but the Kalifornia Courts are prejudiced. It would have to go to Federal Court as a civil rights suit.
     
  15. oldshooter

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    Several years ago we (the people in kalifornia ) voted to split the state into three states. It was a test referendum just to see what the people thought of the idea. It passed. Then .... nothing happened. I live north of sacramento in a very independent area and most of my friends have given up voting because we are so badly outnumbered by the south-land. The county of L.A. has more people in it than the whole north state. The largest city up here is about 85-90000 and a lot of them have moved up here for the lower cost of living and easy welfare. It didn't used to be that way.
    When I moved here 30 years ago people worked in the lumber mills and cattle industry but the Dems had to protect the damned spotted owl and shut down the lumber mills putting thousands out of work.
    If you are considering coming to kalifornia or doing business here PLEASE reconsider.
    As for the antigun lawmakers, they will win. Simply because they will continue to get re elected over and over. They promise the illegals and the lazy all kinds of goodies to get their vote. Guess what? It works almost every time.
    If I could sell this house and land I would be gone from here as soon as I could load the U Haul truck.

    Sorry to quit the fight boys but Im too old to carry it anymore. Time for this old spider to find his hole and wait for them to come.
     
  16. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I completely understand your frustration. We're outnumbered and it's tough to carry on in a seemingly hopeless cause.
     
  17. dragoon

    dragoon New Member

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    Whoa that is some scary stuff. Keep fighting the good fight !
     
  18. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    This is my thinking, too.
     
  19. Daoust_Nat

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    The company I work for provides turbines and generators for electric power. Some years ago we won an order to provide power for a Northern California project called Sutton. At the time California was deeply in need of elecricity. We were still held up and sued for supporting a contract that would provide needed electic power, but might endanger the spotted, striped, squared, confused liberal, or something else. Eventually we supplied the equipment, but I have no idea at how much more money it cost.

    CA, could you even move over the Nevada line?
     
  20. CA357

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    Like I said, I'd go in a heartbeat, but my wife is happy here. She is quite ill and I want her to be happy.

    If it gets too bad, Nevada's pretty close for a bug out. However, I don't see that happening unless they try to take my guns. I'll put up with it as long as I can. I'll support as many 2A groups as I'm able, vote conservative, raise Hell with the local Tea Party and stand up to this socialist state and its pathetic, freedom robbing, asshat politicians.