From another forum - Enemies among us...a conversation with a Fed agent

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Bigcountry02, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I found this on another forum, thought you all might want to read it and the thread!

    Not sure how true; but, worth the read.

    http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=178491

    Enemies among us...a conversation with a Fed agent

    Was out with some friends last night, and one of the women was talking to a guy she knows. I never met him but we started talking and come to find out, he is a federal air marshal, 12 year ex-Marine. So I ask him which side would he chose...conversation went like this:

    Me:So if the orders came in, that as a federal agent, you were required to confiscate peoples guns, would you do it?

    Him:Of course, orders are orders

    Me:So you would violate peoples 2nd amendment rights, because you were ordered to?

    Him:Yes, why do you need to have an AR of AK anyway. And trust me the government knows what guns you have!!!

    Me:I doubt they know, cause most of mine were cash and carry. I thought you took and oath to the Constitution, not the politians.

    Him:Well I did, but thats just a useless piece of paper written 300 years ago!!!

    He then asked for my name and address. That was the point I knew I needed to walk away, and just left the conversation with "well, I guess we will see each other on the front lines. And good luck trying to come take my guns."

    So the lesson learned is that they will turn on the citizens, only need to be ordered to. So if you meet any kind of LEO, make sure you know what side he/she is on, cause we will need the ones on our side, and we will want to know the ones that arent.
     
  2. Rarity

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    As soon as I read "ex Marine", I decided to stop reading. :eek:
     

  3. 1911love

    1911love New Member

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    Good point Rarity. Hopefully this idiot treasonous LEO is the exception and not the norm.
     
  4. Wiebelhaus

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    I don't buy it, way too ~I'm a hero, I sure told him, look how awesome I am~ overtone to be real in my opinion, confrontational contact like those rarely go all script perfect. That may very well have been the jist of the conversation and that may have been his fantasied rebuttal while taking a shower and then thought " I"M A HERO! MUST ALERT THE INTERTUBES NOW!"
     
  5. KimberFan

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    I might be all wrong on this (not the first time) but, stop and think about this...if this so-called "order" came down to confiscate all the guns, how many government agents would that require? There's just no way I see that being possible...this current Administration can't hardly afford to run the joint now as it is. I don't believe "they" know who has what either to make it work on getting ALL of the guns...especially without a civil unrest. If anything, they'll stick it to reducing the purchase of new weapons and beat up the ammo manufacturers but, to go after someone who has firearms purchased maybe face to face say 10 or 25 years ago thru a classified ad or whatever?...naaaa Like I said, I may be wrong but, I just don't see it gearing up like that. If it does..."Heck I dunno what happened to all those guns I had...pay no mind to those pieces of cut up 12" diameter PVC pipe pieces over there, sonny....";)
     
  6. nitestalker

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    Humm! It is always the USMC that the the Left wingnutts blame for the problems of America. I was talking to a Doctor who belongs to the AMA a very left wing medical Org.
    I said Doctor is it true the Flu shots will be mandated by Obama? Doctor yes we have the serum. I ask, will Flu shots only be used on NRA members? He said that was true. I ask do you know these shots are actually a deadly virus? Doctor Yes but it is best for the New World. This is a true story.:eek:
     
  7. KimberFan

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    Now I'm going to go to jail for not getting a flu shot? I give up....:rolleyes:
     
  8. locutus

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    I gotta throw the flag here! BS

    I clicked the link and read the thread. Not the kind of forum that I would personally consider very credible.

    As a retired LEO, I have friends in the federal LEO community, both retired and active. They are all veterans, and take their oaths, both military and LE very seriously.
     
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  9. c3shooter

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    I would humbly offer for your consideration- have any of y'all looked at how MANY guns are held in private hands in the US.

    Approximately 275 MILLION. About 1 household in 3. The total firearms in the hands of the US military AND various Fed, State and local LEOs- less than 4 million.

    Visual aid. Whale. Guppy. Guppy attempting to eat whale. Guppy has serious heartburn.
     
  10. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    As I said found on another forum, posted here for some digestion. Also, listen to the NY 33 minute youtube video carefully. At one point of the guys says "you would have to kick in my door" and the Cop responds "Bring it on". Watching it was around the 20:53 timeframe.
     
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  11. VoodooSouth

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    This is fantastic. I laughed so hard I had to get up and walk away from my computer. Just what I needed after studying until two in the morning. Hope I didn't wake the wife and kids.

    Anyway - Brilliant!

    ;)
     
  12. Applin88

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    And how many of those four million would actually accept that order that have fathers brothers cousins etc that they would be willin to take they're family guns at gun point I wouldn't think many just my thought
     
  13. AR10

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    A horse wants to race. A squirl wants to climb trees, a military trained guy gal wants to fight. The orders are to be followed, and if you think the guy on the front lines, picks which orders to follow, I don't think so.

    As for flu shots, any shot at the Dr office, pass. Given to children, it is not a positive thing many times. Before you trust a Dr with a shot of anything, read what is in it, and read the effects it has on others.
     
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  14. earl1412

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    KimberFan,
    I have an idea that when a country is in bad financial straits, that it is not very hard to "deputize" people that are hungry for power or food, and have them do the dirty work of getting guns. This sort of thing happened in Germany and Italy during the late '30's, which led to the confiscation of people, guns, freedom. If you can corrupt the youth into believing that their 'messia' is the chosen one, you can get them to do your bidding also, just remember Hitler youth. The veneer of America is quite thin, and all it takes is a consistent, persistent drop in people's financial stability to start all kinds of programs to do nasty things to freedoms.
     
  15. Warrior1256

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    Some LEOs will side with us and some will side with the government. Same with the military. We won't know how many of which will side with us unless the balloon goes up.
     
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  16. Wiebelhaus

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    Relevant: note the last line, sent to me idk how real it is or not: