French Mas?

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by JiroZero713, Dec 21, 2009.

  1. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    I spyed something in the gun store I haven't spied before.


    It's a .308 converted MAS-49? It says it on the side....comes with side rail nice scope that's a big one...and the rifle for 350 price tagged....I'm pretty sure I can get it lowered to 300 out the door if I wanted it...but I'm pretty sure right now I don't want it...but what is your take? Hell the way it looks like to me...the scope is more expensive than the rifle at that price.


    But I looked it up...and a number of .308 versions are prone to failures....but I hear it can be fixed....I really liked the grip and the wood on it...and the scope was just nice...although at the time I couldn't see through it...I'd have to adjust it.


    Oh and forgot to mention I think they are getting two more magazines for it....so 3 mags in all.
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    French rifle, never fired, only dropped once. I have heard mixed reviews of the conversions to .308. If you were into military rifles, it might be interesting to round out a collection. Sit it next to your FN-49's, Garands, BM-59's, M-14's, FAL's and Ljungman.
     

  3. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    Aye I love military rifles...but as of now I don't have Garands or etc.


    I found an interesting AR-10 type conversion stock for it online...but eh...not to sure about that...if I want an AR-10...I'll buy a DPMS .308...and then I can used 20 Rounders.

    Apparantly I'm seeing that the rifle is probably worth anywhere from 160 to 350....around where this rifle is priced...and seeing as how the scope is with it...I'm guessing the scope is a 100-150 dollar scope and the rifle is 150.

    So 300 would be a fair price...not the best price....but a fair one. At least in my mind...unless I'm missing the mark by a crap load.
     
  4. photopro

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    The French

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    .......stop it, stop it, don't get me started again about the French !!

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  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    bleh the french got hundreds of years of surrender and we got obama for at least 4 years. i think the french are ahead of us :/
     
  6. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    Anyone at all have experience with them?
     
  7. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    Decided not to get it right now. If I bought another firearm my ma would kill me....and I don't have any more room hahaha....I'd have to sell a few and none I'm willing to sell right now.

    Well does anyone live in Alabama close to Birmingham?

    I can give you the location of said rifle so you can look at it yourself to see if you want it.
     
  8. jpattersonnh

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    Really good price! Much better than the M1a or M1! You should grab it! The scope should be a night scope, 1st generation like the U.S. Starlight.
     
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  9. jpattersonnh

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    The U.K. bashing the French? Dunkirk, Malaysia, Singapore, War of 1776, War of 1812, Hell even the refugee Jews laughed at the blockade of Palestine!! BTW, when are you folks gonna pay us back for the lend lease program. 5% interest will do.
     
  10. wayne in boca

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    The MAS 49 and 49/56 are fine rifles.However,when Century Arms imported a bunch of them,they got the bright idea of converting many of them to .308,as 7.5 was difficult to obtain at the time.Lots of problems with the butchered rifles.I have a 49/56 in the original caliber,and would compare it favorably to any battle rifle of its time.It has a place of honor next to my M1's,SAFN 49,FAL's and M14's as a piece of Cold War history.It is accurate and deadly,in a light compact package.
    By the way,if I hear the "only dropped once" line one more time,I think I'll vomit.Trust me,a man holding one of these rifles isn't surrendering to anybody.I used to be a French-basher like some of you guys.When I started collecting some of the Frech rifles and learning the history that went wih them,I gained respect for the brave men who carried them into battle.
     
  11. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    Have one like it. Not for everyone

    I have one the century conversions 7.5 french to 7.62 NATO (NOT .308)
    I would recomend seeing a couple forums that address the issues with the MAS 49/56 (surpluserifleforums, gunboards) both are a very good source of information on what owners have done with this misunderstood rifle one very knowlageable forum member named Kelt is a good source of information.

    If you buy it with a issue French scope and mount be shure "DO NOT ADJUST THE SCOPE" before messing with it, be well versed in how its adjusted beforehand by trying to adjust the scope in a conventional manner you will damage the scope!

    The one thing noted is that they stamped 7.62 not .308 due to chamber pressures, Ive been shooting 7.62NATO in mine without mishap
    useing commercial hunting ammo in one thes rifles will most likely lead to a slamfire due to the "very massive free floating fireing pin" soft primers of commercial ammo, the act of cycleing a round in the chamber may lead to a slamb fire situation I do know if it dosent set off the round you will see a dent in the primer on the live round on extraction.
     
  12. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    Some firearms crossover better than others.

    Some the mil-surp firearms cross over into the civilian shooter arena readily and some dont,
    This is a well made firearm that was produced just for the 7.5 French round,
    the French ment it to do just one thing (main French Army rifle) it did its job well and was retired, they never thought that crazy americans would get ther hands on them through the surplus market and try to modify them to something there wernt designed to do, we did it anyway because we are Americans and thats the way we do things here (Land of the SuperBowl, Tractor Pulls, Gun Shows,Drag Raceing,NASCAR) we arnt happy with plain vanilla in this case plain French Vanallia.
    we want to shoot America's preferd standard round the .308 winchester
    (main reason I bought it)
    What it boils down to is this, if you fix the heavy fireingpin problem, you shouldent slam fire commercial .308 ammo and have the correct size gas bushing (kinda like the Ruger mini-14 has)you shouldent have any cycleing problems.
    Ive determined to shoot just factory milsurp ammo through it and if I had a choice choose 7.62 Nato over the .308winchester.