Free healthcare

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by patriotjoe, Mar 23, 2010.

  1. patriotjoe

    patriotjoe New Member

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    I have been watching this health care thing for a long time. Today at work a good friend says that it's about time for FREE health care. Free my A@#. I feel like I am the only person who is not buying all of this.
     
  2. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    i sir am not buying this load of crap. They say its every Americans right to free health care. My premium will probably once again sky rocket due to this bill. It jumped by $140 dollas last year. Hell we cant keep illegals out of the country, find bin laden or manage our national debt but hey we get free health care.....
     

  3. m72law

    m72law New Member

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    its only free to the people who dont or cant pay...being lazy people on welfare and illegals..pretty much...we're fu*k:mad:
     
  4. doctherock

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    now even more illegals can flock into the country, have babies and raise a family on our dime.
     
  5. AcidFlashGordon

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    And just as the Dick-in-Chief finished signing this abortion of a bill, the states filing the lawsuits over the unconstitutionality of this bill dropped those lawsuits on a desk in the Federal Court building. Hopefully these lawsuits keep this in the minds of voters in November.

    Remember In November!
     
  6. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    i heard earlier at least 12 states filed within minutes of signing
     
  7. pandamonium

    pandamonium New Member

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    I read in one of the newspapers that 13 state are filing suit, other states are also filing but independantly, not part of the group. Lets pray the supreme court ( I believe that entity is majority Republican), will slam this the way it should be slammed. One of my biggest gripes is that if you dont have ins through your employer or through the gubment that you will be asessed a 2.5 % tax by the IRS! This in my opinion is the first MAJOR step towards socialism at its worst. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America, USSA!
     
  8. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    It's not free health care, It's healthcare at whatever price they make us pay for the indigent's healthcare.
     
  9. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    This whole thing has never been about healthcare,ever.
     
  10. bkt

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    Doctors, nurses, medical staff, hospitals and other facilities will still need to be paid. Medicines, medical supplies and access to medical equipment will still cost money. But instead of a free market determining those costs, the government ultimately will.

    Expect taxes to go up significantly, premiums to rise for most working people, and quality of care to go down.

    They call this "free" health care.

    Anyone who thinks socialized health care (or anything else) is a good thing does not understand what America is or why she is a great country.
     
  11. TXnorton

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    Do you remember that shortly after the election that the "welfare class" was dancing with joy, and runing around grinning like idiots and yelling hooray, now I don't have to worry about paying my rent, utilities, etc?

    There is a (unfortunately large) percentage of "Americans" who are too dumb to think, and who believe that the messiah is here to give them a completely free ride. They poll for whatever Obama says is good for them. They are not even intelligent enough to be called Sheeple.

    If you work, if you own a business, if you have property, if you have retrirement savings, then YOU will be the one footing the (huge) bill for this.
     
  12. GrimSpyder

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    I just dont understand it

    I’ve tried to keep an open mind to this, and understand how this bill is so great. As some people claim. But I just can’t see it. I only see the working tax payer getting shafted more ways than one. Hell, when you think of all the small businesses that are going to have to let people go because they won’t be able to cover their employee’s health care, if their business is over the 50 people strong. Because I seriously doubt that the tax break will cover, what they will have to spend. That alone seems like one hell of a step in the wrong direction.
    If you are for this bill then explain it to me, and the others that don’t agree with it.
     
  13. Car54

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    The only good that I see in the Health Care Bill is to be able to keep your children on your policy until they are 26 years old. On my present policy my daughter, who is 21 now, has to remain a full time student yet still I pay an extra $300 a month to keep her insured. I'm guessing that this cost will also go up dramatically though.
     
  14. pandamonium

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    I have concerns with not only small busness closing up but the insurance companies too! They are in business to make money, if they are forced to cover everyone even those that the gubment will subsidise, they will lose money hand over fist, what incentive will they have to stay in business then? The insurance companies go down will the pharmaceuticals companies survive that? Then what, thats more jobs lost, more gubment bailouts that dont help anyone? Endless spiral of top heavy gubment try to fix itself!! UGLY days ahead my friends. I see NO GOOD coming from this, NONE!!
     
  15. cpttango30

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    I see so many saying that Canada has great health care. If so then why have I heard of s many people having long term problems or dieing from lack of medical care.

    We have an MRI, CT and many other costly diagnostic equipment in just about every hospital in the country. Canada doesn't I knew a man in canada that lost his son because the MRI he needed to diagnose the brain tumor was backed up for 3 months. Because it was the only one for 400 miles. Here in the states he would have went right to the MRI bumped people that were getting knees of crap like that they would have found the tumor and removed it.

    What I have to wonder is why we want people running health care that can't even balance a checkbook. I mean come on balancing the budget is not that hard. You have x amount of dollars to spend you have y amount of money going to things that you have to spend on. x-y=z z= amount of money left over as a surplus from this money you say ok we only want to spend say 50% ok z*.5=q we have q amount of money to spend on projects a through p if I fund a-j and run out of money well k-p tough **** or we take q and divide it equally between a-p my god it is not that dam hard. If your special project of making sure all stores in your state have a whiskey barrel in front for red white and blue flowers doesn't get enough money you need to come up with the rest.
     
  16. dteed4094

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    I agree with everything Tango says except I don't believe they ever had a surplus to deal with.
     
  17. tomgodd

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    I feel the same way! People at my job have made many similar comments. It makes me:mad:
     
  18. diggsbakes

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    Yep, this is just another "something for nothing" program, as if there weren't enough already. I have worked hard and consistently (with a little blessing here and there) since I was 15 and never had a lapse in insurance.

    I've came close to losing it once or twice and had to struggle to keep it and now it's just supposed to be some gift for folks too lazy to work or unwilling to get an education in order to better their lives?

    It makes me sick. I put $4.60/hr into a health and welfare fund out of my total wage (not base pay) and have for years. Our hour bank maxes out at 550 hours. It takes 135 hours a month to pay for the coverage, so if you're laid off for over 3 months, you have to buy into a sort of backup plan.

    All this and now I'm going to be paying for someone to be insured that might not have even worked a day in their life. :mad::mad::mad:
     
  19. patriotjoe

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    Thanks for your replies

    I can't say anything that you guys aren't feeling. I don't post a lot. This is not freedom in any form or fashion. Thanks for your replies.
     
  20. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    This healthcare bill is going to cost alot of jobs and not just in the everyday jobs, it also has healthcare and personnel working in the insurance companies - those in the insurance will be the average worker bees. I heard this on Rush the other day, they had a insurance worker, in 2 years the private insurance will not be aroun - reason this bill has raised the premium from 65% to 85% causing the tax payer more money and the insurance cannot sustain the payments for medical care. The administration and in the socialist wisdom (laughing so hard - I spit coffee on the monitor), will deem the private insurance companies cannot operate and will dissolve them into a national healthcare system!