Four FTF today.....?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by lonyaeger, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I had my .308 at the range today and fired about 25 rounds. Four of them failed to fire. Different loads, but the same primers in all. In the photo on the left are several cases that fired as they should. On the right are the four FTFs. The impression from the firing pin looks the same on both to me.

    What could this be?
     

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  2. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    Looks like a batch of bad primers to me Lon.

    Handloads? What brand?
     

  3. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    It doesn't appear like they weren't hit hard enough. I'm assuming your hands were clean when you were loading them and not eating your daily bucket of KFC.
     
  4. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Were you smoking a bowl while loading? If so, the grease from the Fritos might have affected the primers. :D
     
  5. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Wasn't smoking or eating - har dee har. Winchester primers. Barnes TSX bullets. Varget powder.
     
  6. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I honestly don't know what to tell you. I've never had a problem with any of the primers I've used. I'm thinking you may have gotten a bad batch.
     
  7. M14sRock

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    Not smoking? Hmm...

    Seating depth doesn't seem to be an issue so gotta be bad primers, or bad Karma.

    Were the primers sealed when you got them? Did they look fresh?
     
  8. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I honestly don't remember if they were sealed or not. I got them at the gun club I belong to and who knows how long they might have been there.
     
  9. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Curious.

    I haven't a clue, but just wanted to say something to show that I'm paying attention. ;)
     
  10. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Well thanks Don, I appreciate that! :)
     
  11. cpttango30

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    Looks to me like they were not fully seated.

    If a primer is not fully seated then with the firing pin strikes the primer it can push it futher into the primer pocket and not set it off.

    Do you have a bullet puller?

    If so pull the bullets and make sure you put powder in the case. I have done that a few times over the years.

    If you have powder I am going to say the primers were not fully seated.
     
  12. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Yes, I have a bullet puller, but I know there is powder in the cases because I shook them and heard it.
     
  13. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    I'm paying attention too!
     
  14. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I thought maybe you didn't love me any more, Jo. :(
     
  15. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    Yeah that's it...

    You caught me...

    I'm the one that sneaked in and pissed on your primers.:eek:
     
  16. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Oh, that's not good for primers?
     
  17. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    {chanting a wish} Don't ask about semen; don't ask about semen; don't ask about semen...
    :p
     
  18. Highpower

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    Hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like the primers are seated too deeply to me. Or perhaps you chamfered the primer pockets and it just looks that way? Did you ream / uniform the primer pockets by chance?

    I agree - the cases on the right do look like light firing pin strikes.
     
  19. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Hy Lon,It's those crappy Barnes bullets you loaded.Your gun is trying to tell you something-Feed me good Bullets!!

    I have never had any problems with Winchester primers,and I have some old ones that I'm still loading with.
     
  20. doctherock

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    I got a bad run of primers once, out of 300 rounds I had 20 or more FTF. I have 500 primers that I will never use from that batch.