Fountain Cokes

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by clr8ter, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    Can anyone explain: Why is Coke from the fountain at so many restaurants so $hitty? I would have to say 8 times out of 10, the Coke is not like what you get from a bottle or can. Now, Coke has their reputation riding, (you would think), partly on fountain sales, and they appear to make no effort to make sure their machines mix it right. Neither for some reason, do the restaurants. If I owned or ran a restaurant, I'd have someone checking that every 30 min or so, and more during really busy times.
    Even though I'm tired of this, what is the point in sending it back? Not sure if the waitresses can adjust it or anything. If you mention it, they gladly take it back, but they look at you sort of strange, and like I said, what can they do on the spot? Can someone from the biz chime in and shed some light?
     
  2. zaitsev44

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    I heard it was something about aspartame. Also the ratio of syrup to water to carbonation is sometimes off whereas bottles and cans are always perfect.
     

  3. readygirl

    readygirl New Member

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    I think, fountain, bottle, can, 2 liter, all taste different. But i dont drink much sody. Especially not from the fountain at a fast food joint. The pimple squishers that work there dont clean the machines properly. And independent labs have found that the water in their toilets have less bacteria than in their ice bins.........:(
     
  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    pretty much what Zaitsev44 said. the carbonated water is made from CO2 cannisters and mixed with the containers of syrup. where they are mixed, they can adjust the mix ratio. many of them mix a higher content of carbonated water to make the syrup last longer and maximize profits.

    bottled drinks are mixed differently and much more controlled settings.
     
  5. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    What? Really? I cannot believe Coke would put up with that.......Not only does it make them look bad, it cuts back on their margins. I was aware that was how it worked, though. It must be fairly easy to make it come out correctly. I was just not aware that anyone could adjust it, although I had my suspicions....

    Ohhhhh, soooo thirsty......
     
  6. indy36

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    "the Coke is not like what you get from a bottle or can"

    I find that the bottles, and especially the cans, taste like crap. The cans are the worst. The old school small glass bottles are the best. My grandmother always had those. So good. Cans though, gross.
     
  7. indy36

    indy36 New Member

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    Here in Indiana, fountain wise, White Castle has the best Coke. The BP gas stations with the Ricker's Polar Pop units are the worst.
     
  8. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    Absolutely! Canned Coke is not my favorite. The small glass bottles are good, but super expensive. You know what the best option is? The big glass bottles of Mexican Coke. Yumm Walmart and another local food store chain sells them.
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i don't care what they say, cans add a metallic taste to drinks.:mad:

    even plastic bottles are better than cans, but glass is the best.
     
  10. chuckusaret

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    I only use coke to tint the Jim Beam:D
     
  11. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    That's because the Mexican Coke has real sugar in it instead of Corn Syrup.

    Actually, I think fountain Coke tastes the best. Just like a beer pulled from a draft tastes better than bottled beer. The fountain drinks are not processed to bottle or can it and you get a fresher taste. I think McDonald's has great fountain pop. And it's only $1.00. And the bacteria you are getting exposed to helps boost your immune system. :p
     
  12. AR10

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    If you buy Coke in a Jewish neighborhood, those bottlers use sugar, not corn sweeteners. Go figure?
     
  13. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

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    Corn sweeteners arent Kosher! I dont care what anyone says, corn syrup doesnt taste the same as cane sugar. Both are too sweet for me, Im a diet drinker by choice, not because Im overweight, the others just taste sicky sweet!
     
  14. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The machines that dispense sodas need to be calibrated often. That usually doesn't happen.

    Coke is working on maintaining quality with the new hi-tech machines to dispense soda.

    The new machines that dispense fifty or so different sodas use really impressive technology.
     
  15. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    ^^^^^^^Is for the most part all true^^^^^

    Coke is much more hands on with their machines but some store operators are just plain lazy or trying to max profits. Pe3psi does not pay near the attention to their machines. So it's up to the store operator to make sure it's set correctly.
    Both providers give the store the tools and training needed to set their fountains.

    The fountains are supposed to be calibrated to a 5:1 or 5.5:1 depending on the particular syrup being used. Most restaurants never do this or wont till they have to. A beverage fountain is supplied by a figel (tank) or the newer more prevalent box of syrup then buy CO2 form some local place and get their water from the public system. This can also have a lot to do with flavor. If the water is not filtered at all, not filtered properly due top lack of maintenance the beverages will taste off also. The beverage supplier provide the fountains in most instances and will maintain them but a driver that rather does not give a crap or a restaurant just does not want to spend the time usually means the fountain will not get any maintenance unless it breaks down. The latter is usually what happens. A soda fountain should be brixed (calibrated) weekly. If it is not then there will be problems. It required a few minutes of time and a brix cup. A cup with three openings. The center is to collect carbonated water the other two are to collect the syrup. Remove the fountain head and replace it with the head that separates the water and syrup. A adjustment screw can add or take away syrup asneeded. If the fountain is set right the level of CO2 water to syrup will be at the same level in the brix cup.

    All that is for a machine that has a separate head for each beverage. The gun heads that dispense several form one head are calibrated at the valve to feed the product in the back.

    I spend a good while as a food service employee. before I went back to school. I actually like the work a lot but it usually does not pay real well. Being I had went to school to be a chef (didn't finish though) and the plethora of experience I had jobs as everything form a kitchen mgr, store mgr, asst chef etc. I had to mess with those infernal machines all the time. It bothered the crap out of me when it was not set right. I have been a pop addict for many-many years :eek: I always wanted to open my own place (small home cooking place) but the damn spine is trying to say no to all that..But we'll see
    I aint dead just yet.;)

    Anyway..That's the deal with soda fountains. They are usually crap for two reasons. They have not been maintained or they are cutting back syrup to maximize profit. Though truth be told you maker a huge profit off sodas even with it set correctly. That gives you a glimpse into the mind of a store that sells weak pop to make a few extra pennies.:mad:

    Here's a link to how it's done in case you're curious :)

    http://www.boneville.net/soda/brix.htm
     
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  16. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    That's the best explanation so far. Thanks:cool: I also am sorta addicted, and I would be the same way if I worked in a place like that.
    Now. WOC mentioned McDonalds. As much as I'd rather no t goto that place, she's right. Much less often do You get a bad soda from one of those serve-yourself machines. Be it in BK McD, or whoever. Also, Pepsi (which I actually prefer) seems to be somewhat more reliable. Maybe it's because they're in very few restaurants, at least around here. There is a Mexican joint in town that serves Pepsi, and more often than not, it's good.
    What brands are served in other parts of the country? In the NE, it's predominantly Coke. I know of 1 place, 5 Guys, that sells Mr. Pibb. Which is very good.
     
  17. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Oh, no. It must be Diet Coke or Diet Dr. Pepper.
     
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  18. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    Oh yeah, Dr Pepper is good, too. Also kinda hard to find around here.
     
  19. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Best of all.....Diet Cherry Dr. Pepper.
     
  20. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    Ughh. Original Dr Pepper for me.