fn scar 17 or m14 socom

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by Ultimate_sig, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    I'm ready to go high caliber and I am debating on these two different rifles. In yalls opinion which is the better built rifle? If someone has both which do you like and why? If you had a choice which would you go? As of now I'm leaning towards the socom but not quit sold. Help a fellow out
     
  2. kaido

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    If it was me, I'd put my money on a SOCOM, but it's also because it fits my gun laws better. I'd be pinned to a five round mag, so that's all I would really buy. It would also help when hunting since I think you're only allowed up to five max, but that might be three. I'll have to ask some of the people I know who hunt.


    Another reason I'd choose it is looks. I've always liked the way an M1A looks, no matter what it's wearing. It also seems like there would be more parts out for them if you're into modding your rifles is some way or another.

    As far as the caliber goes, you're at a stale mate there. Only thing the SOCOM might give you is a little better velocity. You'd also probably have a better sighting system with it as well, although I'm almost thinking both rifles share the same style of irons.


    Keep in mind, I've only ever shot the M1A and never so much as held a SCAR anything in my life. Haha
     

  3. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    I'm actual leaning towards the m1a because it's longer and you'll get greater accuracy over distance
     
  4. kaido

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    That's why I'd be leaning towards an M1A, but if you only really have 100-200 yards to shoot anyways it wouldn't make much of a difference. If you've got an unset maximum range, I'd defiantly get it.
     
  5. JonM

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    ive had three m1a and have a scar17

    i no longer have any of the m1a

    i know lots of folks like the m1a but i find them ungainly very poorly balanced incredibly heavy not very ergonomicly friendly and very difficult to keep accurate over the long haul.

    the m1 is very fun to shoot but a pain in the but to load a fresh mag since its got the ak style rocker lock type system for putting in a fresh mag.

    the only thing i really liked about the m1 was the sight system its classic ww1/ww2 era vintage.

    now the scar 17 is a wonder to shoot if the m1a was fun like girl next door type fun the scar17 is pure porn star fun. extremely accurate and remains so through the barrel lifespan. you dont have a oprod you have to worry about bending with hotter ammo or heavier bullets. it runs everything well from 150grain to 180grain loads. mags are the same price range and slightly more available than m1a mags.

    scar17 you get a full monolithic reciever adjustable gas system very very good iron sights with an adjustable range setting on the rear sight that works. the trigger group is protected from dirt and debris even when running suppressed.

    the only negative about the scar17 is the horrid triggers. there are two replacement style triggers you can get one from giesselle and one from timney. ive got the giesselle trigger as its more of a direct drop in place. replacing only a few parts.

    my scar17 using match grade handloads is a submoa gun up to 300 yards which is as far as ive shot it.


    this is a pic from sighting in with a 4x32 acog. using 168grain sierra smk. the top hole was the final adjustment and is a 3 shot group. the bottom two holes are single shots each in between adjustments to bring the optic up to final zero

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    between the M1a and scar17 its absolutely no contest.

    scar17 weighs in at the same weight factor as most ar15...
     
  6. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    very interesting, so over long distances which one do you think will be more accurate
     
  7. JonM

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    scar17 hands down.

    there is no good way to mount a scope reliably on a m1a. every scope mount out there for the m1a has issues of one sort or another.

    then talking iron sights i think, after using both styles, the scar17 edges the m1a since it uses standard ar15 front sight posts. i put a match grade .040 post in mine. and if you dont like the scar stock sights you can replace them by using any number of standard picatinny style open sights.

    the scar17 has just miles of rail space in a monolithic format for mounting whatever optic system you choose. thats a HUGE advantage. ive got my nightforce 12-42x56 benchrest scope on qd mounts from ADM and it works just awesome on the scar17

    here is mine with a trijicon accupoint

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    older pic with a acog before i did some mods

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    with MI rail extension, bcm gunfighter grip, vltor buttstock, magpul selector, surefire flash hider

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  8. Ultimate_sig

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    Checking out the gun show tomorrow hopefully I find my new toy
     
  9. Ultimate_sig

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    I have an ad up and I was offered a rra lar10, debating on taking it
     
  10. Argyle_Armoring

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    I have a friend here in OK who is selling his SCAR 17. I'm an FFL so I can ship it to your FFL if you're interested.
     
  11. USMC-Hat

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    I have both also but JonM already covered everything very well. My Socom is in the back of the safe probably very jealous of my new steady, the SCAR 17.
     
  12. Ultimate_sig

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    I'm trying to trade a pistol to get close to the cost of it


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  13. Argyle_Armoring

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    Let me know if you don't have any luck at the gun show tomorrow. I'll talk to my buddy and see what he thinks.
     
  14. Ultimate_sig

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    How much is he selling for
     
  15. Ultimate_sig

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    It has crimson trace master series grips, Smith and Alexander main spring housing, the trigger is at 3lbs, polished internals
     
  16. Ultimate_sig

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    No luck at the gun show, I found one but the guy wanted $3200. I couldn't control my laughing to take it any further.
     
  17. 1911love

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    IIRC, the 17s has an 18 inch barrel and the SOCOM has a 16 inch barrel, right? How would the SOCOM have more velocity than the 17s?
     
  18. JonM

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    scar 17s barrel is 16.25"
     
  19. 1911love

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    So if the barrels are the same length, why are some people in this thread saying the SOCOM has more velocity?
     
  20. JonM

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    should be pretty close in velocity. scar MIGHT edge it but not in any way that truly matters. chromed bore helps just a fraction of a scootch and you can get gas plugs that let you turn the gas off and go single shot.

    doing that your talking like at most well within the margin of chronograph error

    fn just released their 14" sbr barrels and will be releasing the mk20 20" barrels soon.