FN FNP 357 sig vs springfield 45.

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by mikep925, Mar 2, 2010.

  1. mikep925

    mikep925 New Member

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    ok so i need advice im in the United States Marine Corps. im stationed out NC and im living in a neighborhood that i hear gun shots alot and im bout to have a kid so im shopping for a gun i was at the store today and i fell in love lol but im not sure what i want cuz i dont know the difference

    both the springfield armory 45. and the FN FNP-357 Sig.....where both pretty much the same price....

    all i know is that both guns fire different caliber rounds and from what i can visually see the springfield has the triple trigger and the other safety on the back of the grip....ive heard people say both are great guns but i really dont like paying 500 bucks for something without knowing everything
     
  2. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Hi Mike. Welcome to ftf and thankyou for your service. God Bless the Troops!

    Usually new members stop by the introductions forum and spill their guts, but I'll try to help pyou here.

    These rounds are very different in ballistics. I couldn't tell you the difference in stopping power, but the .357sig is typically a 'hotter' round. (more pressure, snappier recoil, and huge muzzle blast) In my opinion the .357sig is not suited for home defense. That little bullet will fly through many walls with reckless abandon.
    You can get some .45acp hollowpoint rounds that will not penetrate near as much, but still has the ko power you need!

    I think both are quality firearms, but I haven't fired or tried out any FN pistols. I have however fired more than my share of Springfield XD's. They are a fine choice! They do have the trigger safety, grip safety, and visual chamber loaded indicator. They are simple to operate and takedown for cleaning. They are accurate,reliable, and a great choice for a first pistol.

    Have you considered a 12guage shotgun for home defense?

    I have a .45acp, but for my house I'm grabbing the shotgun first if I can!
     

  3. mikep925

    mikep925 New Member

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    i thought about a 12 gauge but i dont want something that big...if i was gonna buy that i would buy something similar to the m4 because i know how to fire one with my eyes closed but thank you for the responce
     
  4. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    Hi Mike, and God bless my Sister Service! I JUST posted this in the XD forum, so forgive the repeat, everyone.

    http://www.officer.com/print/Law-Enforcement-Technology/Springfields-XD9-Subcompact/1$31772
     
  5. operator0

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    Mike, from one veteran to another....even if I didn't like toteing you guys around on my boat ;)

    The .357sig is a round that duplicates the tried and true .357mag ballistics in 125gr. The .45 and .357 are nearly identical in stopping power as measured by the two studies that anyone puts any kind of credence in. That's still a controversial statement though, so expect some members to have issue with it. Still, the facts are that either of those two rounds are near the top of the heap in real world performance. Make sure you shoot both before you buy, then pick the one you like best.

    As to what Gojubrian said; I find it very odd that in one post someone will claim that the .357 is too powerful for SD because of the danger with over penetration and then another poster, or as I've noticed numerous times the very same poster just days later will claim that a heavier projectile penetrates better than the lighter faster bullet and as such they trust the heavier bullet more. I'd really like some clarification on this. Does a faster, lighter bullet over penetrate or does the heavier, slower bullet penetrate more?

    I mean literally, I could look through just the last three pages of threads and find two divergent opinions on this subject from two well known members. What's more disconcerting is that not once...not one time have I seen a poster who claimed one side really debate another who claims the other side. Perhaps I've missed it, or perhaps the data doesn't back up either claim.
     
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  6. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    Mike the only problem I have with the 357 sig is that the ammo is hard to find and usually very expensive. Tonight I sold a FN in four five to a guy and he's picking it up Friday. He promised that he let me shoot it Friday night as we also have an indoor range. If you want my opinion on that firearm get in touch with me Saturday, although, eyes thinks eyes gone to like that big ole gun. Just got a funny felling about it.
     
  7. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    It depends on the type of ammo we are talking about. +p, hollowpoints, fmj, etc..... Different loads will have different penetration in the same caliber.

    Why don't you clear it all up for us? ;)
     
  8. Tackleberry1

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    Springfield What?

    Springfield sells 1911's, "steel frame" single action auto's, "think US Military sidearm from 1912 to 1985" and they sell the XD "polymer, striker fired pistols.
    If it's a new Springfield under 5 hundred I'm guessing your looking at the XD, there 1911's run quite a bit more. I own both and would recommend the XD .45 ACP. You get 13 plus 1 capacity in a proven fight stopper and if your a Marine, I'm not going to worry about your handgun training. If the corps hasn't given you any, they've given you enough smarts to go get it on your own...Right?
     
  9. operator0

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    The contradictions only seem to appear when discussing the .357mag/sig. If a person is asking about .357s then a .45 fan will say it over penetrates and is a dangerous SD/HD round. If talking about .45 then a poster will say that the .45 is better because heavier bullets penetrate better than the lighter 357 rounds.

    Just take a few days and watch the posts.
     
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  10. gadrooning

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    I think you have some pretty informative posts here. If it was to me I would stick with the 45 just because as posted, 357 sig is a hard round to find and keep in stock and it is more expensive. Plus the 45 is just a fun round to shoot.
     
  11. mikep925

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    thanks

    thank you all, don't mind my grammer in this post im on my blackberry typing this im currently doing a night op. and got some free time, thank you everyone i would like to say i think i am definitly falling towards the springfield because of the fact of its history and reviews all around, i do want a gun that is giving me my moneys worth AND more that is reliable and long lasting, as far as the FN 357. yea the rounds are expensive i know it fires 38 special rounds so if i would get that i would probably shoot the 38 rounds down range and keep a clip of 357. rounds for actual use.....i have only been to 3 gun stores so far and this weekend im going to a around the corner to test fire some rental pistols....and *yes my weapons training is up to par** but since im not a SNCO yet my weapon training is definitly leaning towards an M4, M16A4, Saw, 240 gulf/bravo and 50 cal.....even got to fire an AT4...*may i add that **** will make you feel like your heart shakes when it fires lol** but as far as the pistol range i dont get to go very often but i trust myself especially with a private range around the corner from my house....i wanna thank you all for your information i will be going to many more stores and test firing weapons and i will keep you all updated and probably asking for more advice....i probably will be purchasing my weapon by the end of the month....especially with this gun show coming up march 28th.....ok everyone i'll catch yaw later
     
  12. sweeper22

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    Shoot them both and pick whichever you prefer.

    .357sig ammo can be a pain to find (and pay for), but if you don't mind ordering online the issue can be somewhat minimized.
     
  13. mikep925

    mikep925 New Member

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    well the place that i was gonna get the gun from sells the ammo but thanks everyone
     
  14. DavidTurley

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    Its hard to beat a 12ga when it comes to home defense I hope you never have to use a firearm to defend youre home but if you do find youreself in that situtaion the extra knockdown power will elimante the threat swiftly not to say a handgun will not do the same but take into consideration you only get one bullet with each trigger pull of the handgun vs 15 buckshot pellets with every pull of the 12ga trigger when using 3inch mags. If someone is putting my family in danger I want to defuse the situtaion as quick as possible I do how ever cary my handgun when Me and the family take road trips. The benelli m4 is a great gun but expensive you can pick up a new mossberg model 500 tactial for cheaper than either one of those hand guns. So even though I own some nice hand guns if someones around my house up to no good Im grabing the 12ga every time. But if you are going with to go with a handgun I dont know nothing about the FNP but I do own a springfield XD and its a great firearm.
     
  15. WDB

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    Mike, The FNH FNP is a sweet pistol and you can get it in 40 and 45 as well as the 357. I have a FNP-40, not my carry pistol but easily one I use for home defense. A good grip with exchangable palm swells to fit your hand, decent sights and easy to control in a rapid fire event (14+1). It's one of the pistols I own I wouldn't sell simply because it preforms so well. Not taking anything away from the Springfield just two totaly different pistols IMHO.

    Either pistol will be a good choice.

    Semper Fi Brother,
    Will
     
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  16. CA357

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    .45 ACP is big and fat and slow. I think it may be the perfect SD round. It's not cheap, but it's generally a whole lot more available than the .357 Sig.
     
  17. mikep925

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    hey just wanna say i finally made my choice and bought a 40. cal smith & wesson SW40VE....what yaw think
     
  18. Shihan

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    That'll do nicely, I like the Sigmas, I have one in .357sig that I use as my Carry, some will complain about the trigger but it works well for me, Get to the Range and Shoot it and all will be fine.

    You in Cherry Point or Jax, If in Jax I am not far from you if you'd like some range time.

    It is better than a Glock.
     
  19. tovlogos

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    .357 sig

    Like some of you, I have no problem with the .357 sig. FNP shoots straight and relatively comfortably, for a more than fair price. I like the fact that I can shoot the .357 at longer rangers that the .45, with good accuracy. Over-penetration is not a problem with hollow points. A full metal jacket will over-penetrate with even a 9mm. Even when I'm hunting, I am fully conscious of what's behind my target; and make split second decisions before I shoot. By the grace of God, I have always been safe.
     
  20. DrumJunkie

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    The FNP's are really good pistols. They are some of the only poly frame weapons I would own. I'm not a big fan of the 357 Sig round but it's more for reasons of cost vs performance. I just don't see a reason to spend that kind of money on ammo when I cnaq use other ammo and achieve similar results. THe 357 Sig ammo is not as readily available and costs more than most other rangew and/or defense ammo. But it to each their own. I don't see a lot of use for a 10mm either but I can see why people would want to shoot one. THere is a fun factor to them as well as the 357 Sig.

    I'm a big Springer fan but I am not a fan of striker fired weapons. I just prefer an external hammer. The XDs are well built and reliable though from all I've seen.The FNP is loaded with features and fits many hands well with the ability to change the back strap. The de-cock is something I've grown quite fond of the more I shoot a pistol with one. I own one of the Browning Pro 40's and it's one of my favorite pistols to range shoot with.

    I don't see over penetration as an issue either. That's what HPs are for anyway. People use hit loads all the time in the more traditional calibers. And there is the 10mm. So get what ya wanna OP. It's you that has to be OK with the decision. So get what you want.