FN/Browning HP or Beretta 92FS

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Artyom, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    Hello all! I am from Ohio! I am new to the forums and I'm hoping I can make this community the weapon community that I can frequently visit being as how I haven't joined a weapon community until now.

    I have been viewing several different firearms and within the next month or two I am going to attend a gun show and get my first handgun. I have already decided that as my first handgun I would like it to be a 9mm. I have done some reading and decided that this round is effective, good to learn on, and is very accurate and cheaper to fire than others.

    After a lot of reading and searching on the internet through various forums I have come down to what I believe to be the final two guns which are the Browning HP (or and FN Browning MkIII), or a Beretta 92FS. I have ruled out the CZ75 and the Sig p226 at this point although those are also good contenders.

    From all of my reading I have learned that I essentially cannot go wrong with either gun really. So what I would like to ask some of the more experienced members is, which gun do you prefer or suggest? I plan to use the gun to go out to the range for fun and I will also get my concealed carry here in Ohio as well.

    Here is a brief pro/con list I have put together based on my readings:

    Browning HP or FN Browning MkIII:

    Pro:
    Fits most hands like a glove
    Time tested
    Slightly higher value
    Very High Quality
    Magazine safety (I am listing this as a pro especially with me being new to guns. Some people don't like it but I don't think I would mind it all that much.)
    A comfortable weapon to conceal
    A very unique and slick design

    Con
    Supposedly has trouble feeding rounds that aren't FMJ
    Hammer bite (supposedly can be fixed pretty easy)
    Gritty trigger pull
    Lower magazine capacity
    Slightly more expensive than Beretta

    Beretta 92FS

    Pro
    Nice design
    Higher capacity
    Seems I can find parts easier where I live
    Fires all ammo pretty well
    Double and single action
    Hammer bite not a problem
    lower price
    Supposedly slightly more accurate than the Browning

    Con
    Slightly large
    Trigger can feel like a bit of a reach for smaller hands
    Harder to conceal carry
    Doesn't hold value quite as well
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    If it was not for difference in tastes, the ice cream store would carry one flavor.

    Me? I love my Hi Power. Gritty trigger? No. John Browning got this design right.
     

  3. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    The trigger on my BHP wasn't so great when I got it. Yanking the mag disconnect cleaned it up a bit, but it's still just okay in my opinion.

    I like the HP over the Beretta. It mostly comes down to the sleeker design. Beretta M9/92 have always felt bulky and with too many switches and catch points for my liking, although I've recommended them to friends with monster paws. BHP capacity is listed as 13rds "stock", but 15rd mags are easily acquired and they fit flush...so capacity isn't really an issue.

    They'll both shoot well. Handling each should probably answer your question.
     
  4. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    Thank you for your inputs! If anyone else has any I would love to hear! 15 round mags huh? I actually wasn't aware of that. I'll def get one of those if I do go with (and it's looking like I will) the Browning. What kind of holster would you guys recommend for conceal carry? I am usually wearing a jacket or hoodie a lot of the time so I figured maybe a shoulder holster? Although, from what I've read online most people just use in the pants/hip holsters? Which do you guys prefer?

    The gritty trigger pull thing was just something I read from a few different people but personally I figured they were just being picky about the trigger pull. Can a trigger job be performed on it that can make it a little smoother without removing the magazine disconnect?
     
  5. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    I have shot many 92's and they are a fine gun. I bought an old HP mostly for its history. I think both are to big for concealed carry. My HP has never jammed and is fairly accurate. I removed the mag safety, cause I did not like it.
     
  6. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    Well, since I will be going to a gun show within the next month or two, what are some prices I should expect to see for these weapons? Online they vary greatly but I think I may be able to talk a vendor down slightly on some guns. For instance, do you think I would be able to get a Beretta from a vendor for 400ish? What about for the Browning models? Also, I've pretty much ruled clones out. If I'm gonna get a handgun I would like to just go all the way and get the real deal.
     
  7. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Browning Hi Power hands down!

    You need more than 16 rounds?

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  8. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    Yeah that Hi Power is one well done firearm for sure.
     
  9. Wiseman3

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    Carried the m9 on duty nice gun good feel when you adjust but I own the Hi Power and will never let it go I've never had an issue with that gun and have had it for 17 years I love my Browning
     

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  10. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    Wow 17 years? That's what I'm talking about. I def want something I'll be able to hand down to my future child one day. Although I'm sure as long as you take good care of a firearm it will last very long in general.
     
  11. Wiseman3

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    Some say the Hi Power came from John Browning fixing the issues he saw in the 1911 design which he designed as well and is also a fine weapon so please 1911 lovers don't lynch me. It's a very tested long lived design for about a hundred years now. Beretta is a fine weapon just hard to compare the two against each other. As I always recommend if you can go to your local range see if they have both those guns and try them out side by side. And always buy what you're comfortable with. Because what's mot important is how you like it how it feels in you hands and how comfortable you are with the way it functions.
     
  12. 1stMarine

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    Hi power hands down, as long as you don't go clone it'll last forever, my buddy has one and hasn't cleaned it for probably well over 2k rounds, still functions flawlessly. Never had feeding issues with hollow points, or frangible ammo so don't even worry about that. Finally the trigger is absolute glass on the thing, anyone who calls it gritty should shoot a 92fs.

    Never Forget.
     
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  13. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    So when I go to the gun show, what should I expect to pay for a well maintained 90ish% + or new one? I live in Ohio so I wouldn't figure the price to be too bad right? Plus I could probably talk them down a little bit with cash in hand?
     
  14. 1stMarine

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    How big is the show, county, state? The bigger the more $$$ but better condition generally. That's just a general trend though from my experiences. There's really no telling what you'll find or be paying until you get there. Just be wary of some of the deals there, one of my friends got an SKS at one and the magazine wouldn't feed period. On further inspection the spring actually rusted through. Finally I guarentee you can talk them down, its just a matter of how much. A smart person will allow for this on their sticker price, so I'd reccomend go first at 60% then slowly come up to around 80% asking price.

    Never Forget.
     
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  15. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    Thanks for the tip friend. I live in Ohio, USA and I think it will be a slightly smaller gun show but I'm not entirely sure tbh. It will be my first gun show so I'm going to assume they will be OK with letting me hold it and what not? Since I'm younger I feel like he might look at me slightly strange. Also, how will I know to watch for things that might not be right internally with the gun? I would hate to buy one that looks great and then get it home to find bad things internally. I don't suppose he/she would open it up, strip it or something?
     
  16. 1stMarine

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    If they don't let you hold it, don't buy it. The best thing you can do is try to work the action a few times, or its a stretch but you could ask them to field strip it in front of you. Look for things like surface rust, cracks, really deep scratches/ gouges on the internals (they really don't make a difference on the outside action wise). Ask for the age, number of previous owners, approximate number of rounds through it, any modifications done or problems fixed, and if new enough whether or not its still under warranty (most are around 1 yr). Also make him/ her sell you the pistol, act interested but not obsessed. Act like you really don't "need" it and that you could walk at any time. Point out imperfections/ damage. And remember you don't HAVE to make a deal right then, if the deal isn't there don't force it, and you have options. The internet is here for a reason try finding out what you should pay by finding the rough price range of what you want online, then use that as an objective, try to beat it. (Also print the page out to show them that they do in fact have competition, it'll encourage them to lower their price below that of what was found online)

    Never Forget.
     
  17. Artyom

    Artyom New Member

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    Very good advice friend. Sounds like you have been to a few of these shows.
     
  18. 1stMarine

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    One or two lol.

    Never Forget.
     
  19. sweeper22

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    For an excellent used BHP you're probably looking at $650, give or take $100. At a show a little over a year ago (Sept 2010) I was happy to snatch this one up for $500:

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  20. Thebiker

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    My choice, Browning Hi-Power. It is one of the few handguns that I lust over that I don't own yet, but I'll get there;).