Florida Constitutional Carry Vote

Sniper03 said:

Carlo and Forum Friends from Florida,

I believe it is coming up for the Vote in July.
Yes, I heard Gov. Ron DeSantis say on the News if it got to his desk, he was going to sign the Bill. Everyone on your list needs to write or Email their State Legislature members who will be voting in the decision, as well as all Florida residents here on the Forum. That is great we have Constitutional Carry in Tennessee. And there have been no issues so far. Governor Lee made it from a Misdemeanor to a Felony in Tennessee for those violating the rule of law regarding the Constitutional Carry. So, you may want to pass that information along to your legislators who will be voting when you contact them.
Good Luck!

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FL constitutional carry already passed and was signed by Ronnie. The law takes effect July 1st, 2023.

At out FFL we made this chart to continue to inform people about the changes and still highly recommend getting their FL carry permit, there are holes in the constitution carry law that the majority of people do not know. There have already been some open carry people open carrying in the streets which is illegal in FL, before and after the constitution carry bill.

Same argument, different subject.

The bottom line is that at some point people have to be held accountable for their actions, period. The question is where do we draw the line on what we allow or not allow in society. Just like the whole argument over age of adulthood. Some say 18, some say 21, then we do silly things like make adulthood 18, but no drinking, buying cigarettes, or pistol ammo until you're 21.

It seems to me the government is gerrymandering with various ages in some misguided belief they need to protect everyone from themselves. Of course, it's always in the name of safety and always in response to the helpless screeching for big brother to "do something."

Horse puckey, all of it. Make one single age the age of adulthood and be done with it. Along with that age comes all of the benefits/privileges of being an adult, right up to and including carrying a concealed firearm, training or not.

Once you're an adult and you do stupid things, then you should be awarded with stupid prizes, right up to life in jail or if bad enough, execution. No need to punish the rest of country for the poor judgement of a single person.

Yeah, I get it, that means innocent people may be harmed or even killed due to some bozos lapse in judgement, but that already happens. If you seek to rid society of the idiots, morons, and plain evil louts, the worst you can do is to coddle them via all manner of stupid and useless laws. It might hurt a little at first, but the gene pool would clear itself out in fairly quick order.

Gunz said:

I’m not crazy about this law. It allows rookie firearms buyers to carry concealed without any instruction or training requirement. That, IMO, is a recipe for some stupid ugly things to happen which could add fuel to the anti-2a crowd.

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They still have the responsibility to be safe, though. Whether training is listed as a requisite infringement or not. One would think that's plenty sufficient to provide incentive and fair warning to an upstanding person. Of course, the nefarious types won't do any such thing.

If "stupid ugly" things occur, we handle them one situation at a time, one perp at a time. While recognizing the constitutionality of letting people be until they prove otherwise, with respect to free exercise of their rights.

No other way to BE free, frankly. Free to be an idiot, a criminal, a putz, asleep, or normal and functioning and responsible. It's all on us. And should be, as individuals. Free.

I'm all for suitable regulations to force standards and behaviors. But, ONLY when allowable and authorized, NEVER in areas where it's not to be done. That's "constitutional" carry, in the case of the RKBA. Hold the individuals accountable for individual bad acts, but leave everyone else the hell alone. Including to the point of disallowing impediments and costs being placed before everybody out of fear that some putzes and felons exist in this world. Free. Can't really be done any other way.