Flash suppressors vs. sound suppressors

Discussion in 'Firearm Accessories & Gear' started by Secondhand_Hero, Feb 26, 2012.

  1. Secondhand_Hero

    Secondhand_Hero New Member

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    Okay, so i've been informed by a couple of you that sound suppressors add a bit of reduced recoil to firearms, and also know that they give moderate reduction of muzzle flashes. i'm already aware of flash suppressors' slight increase in accuracy to numerous weapons (assault rifles/carbines in particular).. But what i want to know is what would be the overall best to pick from? i know everything has its purpose, but it seems that silencers are great for cqc whereas flash suppressors would be optimal for longer distances? If it makes a difference i'd also like to know for similar scenarios between mid-range carbine/assault rifles (ie: ar-15/m-16/ak-47) vs long range (sniper) rifles (ie: CheyTak M200/ H&K PSG-1/ M40A3). i'm not looking for circumstances for each weapon, just giving an idea of what kind of ranged weapons i'm talking about.
     
  2. trip286

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    As you seem to be thinking, it really has a lot to do with the application.

    I think if I could pick just one, and apply it to all my guns, I'd take a sound suppressor. I haven't taken a shot greater than 100 yards in a while, and earplugs are uncomfortable. So a suppressor would just serve me better, on my rifles and my pistol.
     

  3. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    Yeah, if they weren't $500 each, thanks to regulations.
     
  4. canebrake

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    Well know this, each suppressor will require a $200 Fed Tax Stamp requiring tons of traceable gub-er-mint paper work. (NFA requirements)

    Depending on what state you live in you may be able to mail-order any flash hider you want.

    If its going on an AR you should look at the Smith Enterprise Vortex Flash Eliminator or the BattleComp 2.0 SVC.
     
  5. Greg_E

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    Flash suppressors are a dime a dozen and can be purchased over the Internet, but a silencer will cost $200 and 4 months just to get the tax stamp to purchase one. You also have to live in a state where they are legal to own. There are many more manufacturers now, so prices are a bit lower. If you want to suppress a handgun up to a .45, you are looking at about $1000. If you want to suppress a .223 or 5.56, or a .308 or 7.62, you can almost triple that. The noise reduction isn't like in the movies and it's a ton of paperwork just to get started. By the way, NEVER ATTEMPT TO BUILD YOUR OWN SILENCER UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO 10 YEARS IN A FEDERAL PEN!
     
  6. Secondhand_Hero

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    Yes, i'm well aware of federal regs and taxes up the.. well, you know. But yeah, i was actually thinking of attaching to a custom AR type build, as of right now i'm just trying to find what i can so i have a better idea of exactly what i want. The rifle comparison was more of to better educate myself versus the assault rifle was actually knowledge i plan to apply.
     
  7. Secondhand_Hero

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    Wow, i didn't know that last part! i was aware of the rest (prices had a vague idea), but federal offense to make a silencer? i hadn't even thought of that! And to think a few years ago a friend of mine had made his own silencer in a highschool metalshop class!
     
  8. Greg_E

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    Yeah, they are considered Class 3 equipment just like machine guns. They are legal to own in some states, but that is why you have to do all the paperwork and background checks. The application even has to be signed by the Chief Law Enforcement Officer or CLEO of the County you live in. When you do get all the paperwork back you have to have it with the weapon or silencer at all times. Play safe!
     
  9. Secondhand_Hero

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    But alas, we are getting off of the topic! Which would you consider to be more optimal for both combat readiness and applicability? And what about cqc (close quarters) versus a fair distance (say, 95-115 yards)?
     
  10. trip286

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    In both of those situations, I'd rather have a suppressor. That's just my opinion.
     
  11. Secondhand_Hero

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    A flash suppressor? Why so?
     
  12. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Me? I meant sound suppressor.
     
  13. JonM

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    a sound suppressor fulfills 3 roles. a high end suppressor will totally eliminate flash, it will function better than a dedicated muzzle brake , and it reduces the muzze blast of a gun shot. the better the supressor the better it will function in all categories.

    you CAN build your own if you apply for a stamp and receive one then you can make one suppressor per stamp. your better off buying one as there is a LOT of high tech research and development that goes into making a high performance long lasting sound suppressor.

    with suppressors it is generally very true you get what you pay for.
     
  14. Cattledog

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    Yeah a few things wrong there. A YHM sound suppressor for a.223 can be had for about $659.00 including the stamp. They go up from there. Handgun suppressors can actually be more expensive than you might think, depending on the make and caliber. The .223 is a good option to silence just because there are more manufacture options now.

    here, go shopping :http://www.impactguns.com/silencers.aspx
     
  15. Secondhand_Hero

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    Okay, so so far it seems like sound suppressors would be the mor popular choice.. i would actually be attempting to put it on a custombuilt rifle chambered for .458 Socom so it may make the selection a little slimmed to say the least but i would be grateful to hear of some good names to keep an eye out for even if the .458 selection isn't huge
     
  16. Cattledog

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    .458 socom? silenced? holy god. Yeah, I'll go out on a limb and say that ones gonna be pricy...It'll probably be a custom job if anyone will do it for you. I haven't ever heard of a silencer for that round.
     
  17. Secondhand_Hero

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    Yeah, very pricey.. i've heard of them plenty of times but i've never heard of a company selling them.. But then again, after the cost it'll take to build the rifle the silencer will seem like chump change
     
  18. Secondhand_Hero

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  19. Cattledog

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    well shave my ass and call me baldy...lernt me somethin new today.
     
  20. okdonk

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    I bought one 9mm suppressor (SWR Trident9 including) from silencershop.com for $474 including shipping. One of the cheapest one i could find. And im still waiting for another 2-3 months for the tax stamp. And yesterday i just submitted another paperworks for YHM Phantom SS QD suppressor which i bought from my local dealer. So this year ill be looking for new toys.
    FYI, try using NFA trust for nfa items. Google "nfa trust" for more info.