Wow... I have a mosin and the recoil on it is around 9 pounds. I took one shot with the 870 and had to see if my shoulder was still on. Went through 23 rounds and loved it but holy crap does that thing KICK. I put 5 rounds of managed recoil remington 00buck and it made a HUGE difference. I was NOT expecting such a large amount of recoil. I am bloodied up because my flashlight kept hitting my thumb. I am bruised but hey, any day on the range is an awesome day. Were any of you guys surprised the first time you took a shot? Now I know that it isn't supposed to feel like roses but still, the recoil is more than my mosin nagant :O Good day!