First purchase of AR-15!

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by synical, May 29, 2011.

  1. synical

    synical New Member

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    Hey everyone I am looking into gettting a Smith and Wesson AR-15 and wanting to know what are some good optic mods to go with. This is my first AR-15 and am not sure on what kind of mods are good for all situations. I am not sure if I want to go with a fixed scope or maybe a red dot with a magnifier. What is the best thing for all situations? Thanks for your comments. This is a pic of the rifle I am thinking about!
     

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  2. Car54

    Car54 New Member

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    What's the price range you have to spend?
     

  3. synical

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    I dont really have a price range I want the best or close to it! I dont really wanna buy a bunch of cheap junk and then not be happy. But the weapon will be used for home defense and a little target practice its not something I am not going to do alot with just fun and hobby mostly but I do wanna be able to cover all situations and have fun with it when I want to use it. :D
     
  4. JonM

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    my opinion a good set of iron sights they will work fine up to 300yds. nikon makes decent plinking scopes as does leupold. 556/223 starts seriously losing its oomph past 300yds

    i prefer shooting with open sights takes more skill to get tight groups than a scope. with your flat top you can easily do both. lots of peeps like red dotstyle scopes for AR15.
     
  5. Car54

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    For red dots I'd say: Acog about $800 on up
    Aimpoint about $500 on up
    Eotech about $420 on up plus the magnifier

    Others can give their ideas on scopes. I have a 3-9x42 tactical mil dot on my S&W now for seeing distances better, that replaced an Eotech.
     
  6. jeeptrash

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    I've got a aimpoint comp ml3 on mine and its excellent, zero complaints. If you want to shoot farther than you can with a aimpoint, you should be lookin for a larger caliber rifle.
     
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  7. synical

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    this caliber is fine for what I am going to be doing with it. I dont hunt or anything I just love guns. I want a project I can add alot of mods too and the AR is great for that. I have thought alot about eotech red dot with magnifier with flip to right so I can put flip up iron sights on the gun! However If I decide to just get a decent scope does someone make a flip to right mount for a scope in case I want to use the iron sights? oh and is it legal to put a bayonet on the rifle?
     
  8. PSmitty1

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    With the proper mount you can co-witnness your ironsights with a red dot.
     
  9. Quentin

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    In Alabama it's legal to mount a bayonet but that OR pictured doesn't have a bayonet mount. Personally I'd go for a fixed front sight plus it will have the mount. Hope you enjoy your new S&W!
     
  10. synical

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    well with the flat top I am going with flip up front and rear sites for sure! and probably and eotech 512 but I am looking at some of the mako magnifiers cause I just dont wanna spend 800 bucks on a magnifier i wont use much. does any body besides eotech make the flip to the right mount for a mako? I figure that way I have up close and mid range so i get the best of both worlds! And thanks for the info guys it helps.
     
  11. synical

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    or here is another thought! I put flip up front and rear sites on the AR and then put a long range scope on it with a flip to side mount and then I could have the best of both worlds right without busting the bank! or will that work?
     
  12. mjkeat

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    Did you already purchase the S&W?

    I wouldn't put a flip to side mount on a magnified scope. I don't think they make one anyway. If you want to be able to remove the scope purchase a quick disconnect mount.

    If you're just going to have the one AR Id purchase an Aimpoint H1/T1 and mount it on a 45deg mount w/ a scope ( 3-9x or 1-4x) as your main optic. You can mount the scope w/ plain old rings.
     
  13. CHLChris

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    YHM makes a gas block with an integral flip-up front sight. Then you can buy a flip-up BUIS for the rear. I don't see why you would want just a rail on the gas block top.

    I am just now getting around to buying a scope for my AR, but I only had a $900 budget. If your budget is higher, I would definitely consider a scope (good mounts cost some $$$, too) right from the start.

    But, of course, you would need to have a defined use before you decided on Red dot vs. 1-4x scope vs. 3-9x scope.
     
  14. synical

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    well I actually found some flip to side mounts on ebay that have a 30mm ring that would work on a sniper scope I am looking at. I just wanna make something with med-long range but also I can use it for home defense thats why I am thinking about the flip to side mount! That way with a push of a button I have you in my sights! lol Oh and no I have not purchased the AR yet I am probably getting it this weekend!:eek:
     
  15. Quentin

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    My first AR I got a railed gas block so I could remove the front sight or go to a flip up. As time went on I discovered a 3x and higher scope using tall mounts isn't bothered by the fixed FSB so I could have gone with it in the first place. And it's nice to cowitness with an RDS so not much disadvantage to a fixed FSB unless you're going with a long rail handguard.

    If you do get the M&P-15OR I think its gas block rail must use a rail height sight while my ArmaLite gas block has a lower rail which needs a taller sight. Just mentioning because it's easy to get the wrong height.
     
  16. mjkeat

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    I have my reservations about mounting an optic w/ a flip to the side mount. It doesnt seem sturdy enough. I feel like it would move around w/ recoil. Espeacially a mount off of ebay.

    Another note: I hate to be this guy but just wanted to make sure you were aware of all your options. I did a little price shopping on the S&W OR. Although a good AR , IMO there are better options in the price range.
     
  17. Gloves

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    I have the fixed front sight and used an ACOG style 4x on the front. You
    could just barely tell that there is a front sight on it by a slightly darker /
    shadow area on the bottom portion. Not a big deal and most people don't
    even notice it. (I went with a mid-length gas system)

    I'm a fan of the triangle on the front but that could just be me. Was good
    enough for the military for years, tells me it's not a bad system.
     
  18. Quentin

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    I'm also a fan and went with the standard FSB on my recent build. Glad I did, too.
     
  19. goretro77

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    On my Colt LE6920 (purchased years ago) with FSB I use a Troy rear backup iron sight. Once that was zeroed in @ 100 yards I installed a Eotech 557 with 3x magnifier flip to side. Got it as a package deal so everything came together. Cry once but buy once.
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    On the side:
    I noticed a friends sightmark "slide to side mount" moves and wobbles when flipped to the side, there is no positive retention when flipped to the side. Its the weight of the magnifier holding it to the side, so I would not suggest the sightmarks. Plus - the way it locks in the upward postition is very rough - it uses 2 pointed screws to lock and hold the slide assembly holding the magnifier in the upwards position. It feels rough and it will wear out pretty quick.


    I also highly suggest ACOG and Aimpoints, you cannot go wrong.
    Now is not the time to go cheap when so much of your accuacy depends on the equipment.