First Mid/Long Range Rifle

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by diggsbakes, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    I would really like to hear some recommendations for a good, solid, accurate, but very economical (with out sacrificing quality) option for a beginning mid to long (300+ yards) range rifle. Possibly for hunting/survival, but mostly just for sport.

    Semi-auto is preferred, but other action types are great too. I would also consider the availability and cost of ammunition.

    I don't really own an effective rifle for shooting beyond 300 yards or so, or do I know much about longer ranged guns, but I think I may have an interest in learning.
     
  2. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    My first choice would be an M14 variant, but if economy is crucial check out the Saigas.
     

  3. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    M14 if you got the money to spend on it or if money is tight I would say a good Howa 1500 in 308 or maybe a Savage 110, or a good Remington 700
     
  4. Team Realtree

    Team Realtree New Member

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    What is the maximum amount of money your looking to spend on your rifle?
     
  5. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    $500, but preferably less.

    I have enough effective weapons suitable up to about 300 yards, but I have some range buddies that are hunters and shoot long range. So I would like something to shoot when we go out and practice as well as a suitable hunting rifle for medium/large game in case I ever get a chance to go out with them (maybe when I can walk again).

    Sometimes they hunt pronged horn out east on the prairie and long range accuracy is a must.

    Low maintenance, simplicity and durability are all positive.
     
  6. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Two words. Bolt-Gun.

    You are not going to find what you are looking for in a semi auto in that price range my friend.
     
  7. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    JD is very correct here about a bolt rifle, no semi, and you rreeeeeallllyyyy need to define what you mean by long range...are we talking 12 in steel plates at 300 meters or are we talking sub MOA at 500 meters?

    If you want serious precision you're talking about close to $800-1200 at least you can get a Rem 700 SPS Varmit for pretty cheap maybe about 5-6 hundred and its the same receiver/barrel as the 700 police just with a cheaper stock that you can upgrade later if you want, but you're still going to need good, inexpensive glass, SWS Super Sniper is really good for about 3-350, then get good rings and base, like badger or nightforce for about 300, dont buy walmart specials your scope will jump all over the place, ultimately that you get what you pay for, and it will not be a F-class project or rifle by far, and it will defiantly run you well over $500. The .308 is good up to 1000 meters and beyond in the right hands and you'll find any and all ballistics data you could ever want for it, JMO. :)

    Jack
     
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  8. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Bolt guns are great. Like I said I don't really have a serious void for a rifle right now, but I would like to practice with one and gain some proficiency shooting accurately 500+ yards and if I ever do need one I hate borrowing stuff.
     
  9. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    So??

    You want a 500 yard target, possible pronghorn sized game, gun that will shoot what kind of accuracy for $500??

    Minute of Angle at 500 yards is a 5 inch, 3 or 5 shot group. That is good shooting.

    That is real good shooting with a stock, factory stick to be honest.

    That is REALLY good effing shooting with a stock, factory, semi-auto rifle for under $500. It's bordering on other-worldly, but you can definitely see Other-Worldy from where you would be standing, to be perfectly honest...
     
  10. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I'm working on a 1917 Eddystone right now. It should be good up to around 5-700 yards. I picked it up for $199. because it had been sporterized. I've got about $300 into it and it's almost finished. It's got a new Bushnell Elite 2-7 scope on it that was a gift from a friend. It will be a good low buck long range shooter and I'll eventually put a better scope on it.

    If you want a semi-auto, a half way decent M1 Garand will run you a minimum of $6 or $700. plus glass, mount and rings. Even with good but inexpensive glass, I can't see you getting away with less than about a grand. However, .30-06 is an excellent caliber and gives you many options and loads.

    Take a look at some used rifles, something may even have a decent scope on it already. You may be able to make a score, but I seriously doubt that you'll find a semi in your price range.
     
  11. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Ok. . . Thought I just said bolt guns are great.

    I am fully aware of the cost of an Armalite AR chambered in .308 or something of the like.

    Also mentioned this will be my first longer ranged rifle so my knowledge base on this subject is limited otherwise I wouldn't have asked for opinions.

    How about this:

    Good, economical, beginning hunting rifle.

    Is that easier?
     
  12. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Ok CA357 you're speaking my language. Used is also acceptable. Thanks for the feedback.
     
  13. Dillinger

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    Sure.

    Get a .30-06 from Howa like this one here.

    It's right at the top of your price range, but you are getting a lot of gun with it.

    I would plan on getting a glass bed job done on the action, that should improve accuracy on an already good factory action. That would be less than $100.

    Get the trigger tuned down to around 3.5# or so. That should be about $40. Any lighter and you won't be able to shoot well when it's cold and you have gloves on. Any heavier and it won't make a good shooting target rifle.

    You are going to need good rings, but you don't need super premium rings since you won't be shooting dimes.

    Glass? You are probably going to want something in the 3x9 variable range if this is a hunting gun first and a target gun second. Too high of a power narrows your field of view and makes shooting game next to impossible.

    Get yourself a real good quality leather sling, you wil thank me for that later when you are humping to your stand or dragging your animal to the road. ;)

    How's that?
     
  14. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    There we go! That whole on the same page thing does wonders for a conversation. Much appreciated! Will update after purchase.

    Thanks fellas.
     
  15. jbshoots

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    i picked up my rem 700 sps in .30-06 cal. at a pawn shop for 400 that had a 6-24x 50 mm simmons scope already on it. nothing too spectacular, but it could handle what you're talking about, and not a bad gun for the price. i bet you could find something like that near where you live.
     
  16. Laufer

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    There are numerous LE #4s with bright bores for about $300-350. Some guys use a pad for a scope, not wanting to drill and mess-up a classic rifle. You can find plenty of sporterized LEs also.

    These have taken all North American game, and even larger African beasts-not just Axis troops in two world wars etc.

    It is not easy to find lower-cost, surplus ammo with which to plink, but Rem. and especially Prvi Partizan ($.60/round retail) produce plenty of ammo which is easy to reload a few times or more.
     
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  17. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    There's a Remington 700 in the paper with scope for $325. I'm trying to talk to the wife about it.
     
  18. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Two words come to mind.


    GET REAL.

    GO get an air soft and play with your friends when they come over to your moms house.
     
  19. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Ha Ha!

    I hope that was a joke. . . But ease up on that stupid. . . it does burn. . .
     
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  20. Niteflyer

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    Savages are extremely accurate as long as you do your part.....243 or.308 might just fit your needs.