First Handgun

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by kaljr82, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. kaljr82

    kaljr82 New Member

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    Okay, so I am finally going to buy my first (and hopefully not my last) hangdgun this weekend, but I am torn between 3 particular guns. First off, I am looking to get a 9mm. I figured this would be a good gun to use to teach my wife to shoot (she has never fired a gun in her life) so I figured a 9mm would be easiest (perhaps I am wrong). This gun will be used most for plinking at the range and for home safety. After a scare in the neighborhood, my wife finally agreed that I should have a handgun to keep our family safe (especially with our first little set to arrive any day)

    The guns I am looking at are:
    Taurs Millenium Pro 9mm ($399)
    S&W Sigma 9VE ($379)
    Ruger P95 ($350)

    These all fit into my price range (trying to keep it as much under $400 as possible so I can afford a nice gun safe, nice cleaning kit as well as maybe an extra magazine)

    Please offer me any advice you may have!! Thanks much!
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I have not owned any of those firearms, so I can't really help. However, there are folks here that do. I'm sure someone will be along soon to help you decide.

    BTW, welcome here. Please head over to the New Member Introductions and introduce yourself to the gang.
     

  3. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Of the three listed, the only one I'd buy is the Ruger. The Sigma is a decent reliable gun but it has a terrible trigger and is difficult for a newbie to shoot well. As this will be your only gun - please avoid anything made by Taurus.

    Do a Google search, or just search here, for why I said this...
     
  4. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I have the P95,and it's a good gun,it's huge,but that's what makes a reliable gun,all the parts don't jam against each other.Mine was $350,I have seen it other places cheaper,but $350 is about right if it's at a small gunshop.It's accurate and the bullet goes pretty much dead on where you put that combat front sight,not real high or low like some guns.
     
  5. danf_fl

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    Thank goodness that the 1911 is not on the list. They have a habit of multiplying when you keep 2 in the safe. :)
     
  6. sweeper22

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    Taurus- hit or miss quality, not a worthy gamble if money's tight
    Sigma- not a bad gun, but you shouldn't have to pay a penny more than $300
    P95- sort of a vanilla option. nothing fancy, but a good reliable pistol

    Of the three you mentioned, I'd go with the Ruger. I'd consider the Sigma if I found a new/like-new gun for about $250. And yes, they can be had for that. A guy on a local trading board here just sold a like-new Sigma 40ve for $200.

    It'd really be worth looking into used 357/38 revolvers as well as used Glocks, XDs, CZs, etc. There's a lot of good used stuff around the $400 mark, and these guns are durable and hold their value well. Example: I just saw a like new 3" stainless GP100 on consignment at the gun shop for $450 the other day...and if taken care of, down the line that gun will likely command $200 more at resale than any of the guns you listed...and it'll be easier to sell as well.

    You can also get into a very serviceable shotgun for $200. I don't particularly enjoy SGs, but like anyone else...I've got one. Dollar for dollar, pound for pound, nothing can touch them for home defense.
     
  7. WannaGator

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    EAA makes a Windicator .38 special/.357 Magnum revolver I paid $250 for mine.

    That should allow you ammo $$$.
     
  8. BigO01

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    kaljr82 being Old school I think you would be far better off with a good revolver in 357 for your stated purpose of a Home defense and general use weapon .

    Don't get caught up in all the movie and TV garbage a revolver is still just a capable of doing these jobs today as they have always been and they are much easier to make Safe if you have a family with little kids even if they are just visitors and not living with you .

    When it comes to starting out a total begginner there is nothing better than a 4 inch 357 loaded with 38's target WadCutter loads as they are very very light in recoil and as mild as far as Noise is concerned .

    And FYI there isn't a thing wrong with Taurus quality , fact is as they are a Manufacture that prides themselves on keeping their prices in a range where the average Joe can afford them their sales volume is rather high and when you have that kind of sale numbers even an average number of QC problems if they slip by get exagerated by the buying public . This and the fact that when Taurus first started out like all new maker had problems to be ironed out and they just can't shake the bad rep the gained yet no longer deserve decades ago .

    I have owned both new and used Taurus handguns and not a single one has ever had any problems by contrast my first New gun Was a Brand spanking New S&W model 586 357 and it had to be sent in for repair right away due to empties sticking in the cylinders .
     
  9. Flint Rock

    Flint Rock New Member

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    I vote for the Smith & Wesson Sigma, and the $50 factory rebate.
     
  10. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    I'm amazed: a post by Cmike that doesn't make me cringe!

    A shotgun easily fits into the price range given. Plus, ammo options are extremely versatile. However, there were a few key needs the OP stated that a shotty doesn't really meet.

    -They'd need a tall safe to be able to fit it, instead of something smaller that could fit a closet better.
    -This firearm needs to be used by husband and wife and a 12-gauge can pack a pretty tough recoil. (my wife HATES the shotgun, but the 9mm is fine for her)
    -They really seem to want a handgun.

    My 2 cents is buy used from a reputable shop. That would really open up your options and still keep the price tag under $400.
     
  11. Freedom-1911

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    Of the three I can only recommend the Ruger. Taurus I would rate a zero
    The Sigma a five out of ten because of the heavy long trigger.
    Rugers are generally good guns. But if I may. In the same price range recommend the Bersa Thunder Pro in 9mm. I have it and would recommend it over all the ones on your list.
    It is a fine pistol at a fine price.
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    It has the easiest brake down of any gun I have ever seen. Easier than Glock, XD/XDm, Walther, much easier than a Ruger. Has a all metal frame, 17+1 capacity, black or duo tone. and accurate as h e double hockey sticks
     
  12. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, I would have to go with the ergonomically designed Sigma, the moment you raise it, your point of aim is straight, every time. Aiming is as easy as pointing your finger!:D
     
  13. BigO01

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    Did ya miss the part where the OP said he was hoping to teach his wife to lern to shoot on whatever he buys ?

    Starting a first time shooter either man or woman on a 12 gauge is wonderful way to turn them off of the sport and even scare the heck out of those intending to only use it for home defense and most will never give it a try again .

    It would sure be nice if everyone would read the original OP's post in a thread and then use a little common sense prior to joining in a discussion .
     
  14. Pat-inCO

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    OK, let's reset. For a first gun and one that you will have your wife shooting (who has never fired a gun before) - - - start with a .22lr. Ruger is the first one that comes to mind, but there are many others that will do just fine. ;)

    Start your shooting career with a gun/caliber that will be easy to learn with and NOT set you up for some bad habits. The .22lr is an excellent choice there.
    Here is a web page on Shooting a Handgun that has some good information and - most importantly - some links to videos that are very helpful.



    I only slightly disagree with the comment about two or more 1911s in a safe multiplying - I think it only takes one. :D
     
  15. Viking

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    I have a friend that has a Thunder in 40 S&W, it's a quality weapon with an affordible price. He had a Ruger P95, great weapon like most all Rugers built like a tank, for him it was too fat for his hand.
     
  16. kaljr82

    kaljr82 New Member

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    Thanks for all of the replies.
    After a little more research, I am likeing the Bersa (hadn't even really heard about it until here) and I also am really liking the ruger SR9. It is slightly over $400 but looks like a Very nice gun.
    As for the Shotgun, yeah, have a shotgun, not really enthused about teaching my wife how to shoot it as she is already scared of guns the way it is.
    HAving shot .22 Rifles most of my childhood, the thought of a .22 pistol really just doesn't do it for me (maybe it's ego or something). I would rather just spend the money on a decent 9mm.

    I will see if my shop can order Bersa's and see what they run, Bersa aside, I am really most interested in the two Ruger's. any reason why I should or should not choose the SR9 or the P95 (aside from the obvious).
    Thanks again!

    Also, no matter what, I will let you know what I end up getting, and get some pics up for your trouble.
    Slainte!!
     
  17. utf59

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    The .22 platform is great for teaching (and practicing) fundamentals. It's less intimidating to a new shooter, and it's economical.

    If you don't have the budget for two guns, I recommend borrowing a .22 from a friend and starting your wife on that.

    I took a friend and his wife to the range so he could teach her to shoot the 9mm he had picked up for home defense. I brought along a .22 — he requested it, but I would have brought it anyway. She started out on that. After firing it a few times and getting the hang of it (and the noise of an indoor range) she moved up to the 9mm, though she didn't like the recoil as much. After shooting that for a while, I let her shoot my Glock 30 (.45 ACP). She didn't care for the recoil at all, but she went through the whole magazine. She went back to the 9mm and decided the recoil wasn't so bad after all. By the time we left the range, she was shooting better than her husband. But it started with a .22.

    Personally, I take a .22 on every range trip. I can afford a lot more repetitions that way. I'll shoot about a hundred rounds of .22 and 20 or so of whatever "big boy" gun(s) I brought along. That keeps the cost down and the practice reps up.
     
  18. kaljr82

    kaljr82 New Member

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    Yeah, I definitely do not have the budget to buy two guns right now, but will definitely see about getting my wife to shoot ina .22 first.
    There are a few ranges that rent guns here so that might be just the thing.
    Thanks.
     
  19. group17

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    Don't forget the Stoeger Cougar 8000. Its a Beretta for half price. You can find them
    for $360 around here. Great pistol designed by Beretta manufactured by Stoeger a subsidiary of Beretta.
    Genitron.com: Comparing 3 Guns|SW9VE|P95 (P-95)|Cougar|
    Has the Beretta PX4 rotating barrel that cuts down on recoil. A bit smaller than the ruger and Smith.
     
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  20. kaljr82

    kaljr82 New Member

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    awesome.
    I hadn't really looked into that either. I like the comparison linkyou sent, thanks man.
    Another option.
    Now I feel overwhelmed.