First handgun help

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Kage0113, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. Kage0113

    Kage0113 New Member

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    Hey everyone, new to the forum. I am going to join the police force, and need a pistol to start target practice. I've never owned a handgun, and haven't shot many, so I'm looking to get one for target practice. I wont be in competitions or anything. I thought I'd go with a 9mm, but I also figured, maybe I should just get used to a .45, since that is standard issue in Wyoming for police. I looked at a Glock 17 and didn't like it for 2 reasons, 1. it felt like plastic and 2. I didn't like the safety. However, I did like the simple design. So what I'm looking for is something that is user friendly in terms of breakdown, and should I go with a 9mm or a .45. I really love the 1911 models, and would like to get one of those, or another .45 for the punch, but what would be a good starter handgun? Thanks
     
  2. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Find out what the local law enforcement uses and go with that for now in type of handgun and caliber too just to familiarize yourself. Also, get some training, the local gunshops should be able to helpp you with that. :)
     

  3. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I would get a .45 if it were me,so you are used to it.And get a 2nd gun in .22 to do alot of practice with
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I have a .45 & they are not cheap to feed; 9mm is a little less expensive. If i had never used a handgun regularly & needed to gain proficiency enough to work as a cop, i'd go get a .22 for lots & lots of practice first, with an eye to pick up a .45 or 9mm later for defense/work.

    I don't think i would want to learn to shoot a pistol with a .45, personally.

    Don't forget the earplugs!

    edit * basically what ninja said, but i'd get the .22 first.
     
  5. ninjatoth

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    I actually read a newspaper article from here(michigan)and the police academy is thinking of starting with airsoft guns to beat the ammo situation.I actually got some airsoft handguns before I got real guns.They are nice to practice with at midnight in your house.I had a 20ft away target or so,and it gave me alot of beginning basic practice.They make easy work of punching through paper on a flat trajectory at 20 feet.I'm thinking of getting some more airsoft guns to train shooting at targets while moving in my house.
     
  6. shadomunkey

    shadomunkey New Member

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    Personally I prefer a 45.
    I recently traded my crappy Taurus pt745 for a Glock 30.
    Double stack mag holds 10 rounds.
    Very accurate, well built weapon, though a bit expensive.
     
  7. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Okay, I have looked at this thread about 5 times, and I have refrained from answering for a number of reasons. These threads always turn into personal taste and that is a slippery slope for a new purchaser....

    But, in the interest of getting you some real world information.....

    You shouldn't purchase a weapon based on what the PD that you THINK is going to hire you carries. What if they have a hiring freeze? What if you just flat bomb their test, but you ace the one for one county over and they carry a completely different weapon? What then? What if the PD you get hired at, isn't the one where you end up being stationed at after the academy??

    Now, in the interest of learning to shoot, and only from looking at your position from that aspect, here is what a lot of people recommend.

    1) See if you can get some range time at a local pistol range that rents handguns. Perhaps they even have an introductory firearms class.

    2) Try several different types, makes and models, but try to stay away from the biggest, baddest, shiniest thing in the cabinet. Try small calibers like the .22lr or the .38spl

    3) Learn to shoot consistent groups. It doesn't matter when you start if you hit the bullseye or not, it matters if you can put the rounds together on the paper. If you shoot 2 bullseyes, but you have rounds that are barely on the paper, you are going to have one hell of a lot of corrections to make in your shooting evolution.

    However: If your shooting a whole bunch of holes in a lower left, or lower right portion of the target, and your holes are close to each other, getting that group of bullets closer to the bullseye is going to take a lot less effort.

    More to follow later....

    JD
     
  8. sweeper22

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    There are some great 9mm options for under $500. I just picked up a new CZ 75B 9mm for $419...great gun.

    But for your situation I'd actually recommend looking into the Sig Classic 22lr progression kits. It's a program set up by Sig Sauer for new shooters. Basically, you shell out about $500 for a Sig P220, P226, or P229. It's the full-sized gun, but chambered in 22lr (very cheap practice ammo). You also receive a coupon that gets you a larger caliber conversion from Sig for $399.95. So you've got about $900 into the gun, but it's a relative bargain. The large caliber version of these guns typically sell for $800-900 on their own, and 22lr conversions go for about $300. It's not that I'm some die-hard Sig guy, and I understand that this is a fair chunk of change for a new shooter...but if it suits your budget, it's an option that makes a lot of sense.

    The calibers available are as follows:

    P220- .45acp
    P226- 9mm, .357sig, or .40s&w (your choice)
    P229- 9mm, .357sig, or .40s&w (your choice)

    The .357sig and .40sw slides and mags are interchangeable. If you purchase the conversion for one, you can shoot the other through your gun by simply buying a barrell in that caliber (about $160). So for around $1000, you've got a high end gun that shoots 3 calibers. And should you ever choose to sell it, you can get upwards of 80% of your money back out if well maintained.
     
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  9. ghostndawoodz

    ghostndawoodz New Member

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    get a 1911 and you will never regret it
     
  10. Kage0113

    Kage0113 New Member

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    Thanks for all the help. I stopped into a gun store in town and held a few. I found one that really stood out to me, the Springfield XDM 40. I love the feel of it in my hand, the trigger safety and the palm safety, and the grip is great. I think I may go with that one. And i'm glad for all the personal opinions, I like to know who buys what and why. What do you guys think of a .40 cal? The guy said it would be less recoil in comparison to the .45 because the .40 shoots faster and is lighter. How do you feel about that?
     
  11. Gojubrian

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    I owned a xd40sc for a couple years and I loved it. Never had a problem and it was a very accurate little pistol. Like the .40 round as well.
     
  12. sweeper22

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    Springfield XDs are reliable, durable guns. They're also very common, which translates to more affordable parts and accessories. 40sw is a pretty versatile round. Good combination of size and speed, and generally available and affordable. FMJ can be found for $12-20/box of 50. JHP costs about the same as 9mm...$20-40/box.

    I've heard the lighter 135gr is the best self defense round for 40s.
     
  13. Franciscomv

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    Kage, if you like it and it fits your hand well, you're on the right track. Springfield XDs are good weapons, some think they are the best striker fired pistols available.

    However, before you buy it, try to rent it and fire it at a range. Try out the different calibers and see which one you like best. With the right ammo 9mm, .40 and .45 are all good.

    Personally, I prefer .45 because I find it very enjoyable to shoot and it has a good track record as a fight stopper. I found .40 recoil to be more snappy, .45 feels more like a slow push. It's easier for me to get hits with a .45, so that's what I carry for self defense.

    As JD recommended, I'd get a .22 for cheap practice in addition to your SD weapon. It doesn't have to be anything too expensive, just a decent plinker to hone your skills and work on the basics.
     
  14. GatorswithGuns

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    Here's a thought. If you know the department you want to work for, find out their policy on backup guns. If you are allowed to carry a backup, I would strongly suggest that you plan to do so, and there's a good chance the policy will list specific guns you are permitted to carry. If you are spending the money to buy, you might as well get something you can also use on duty.

    That's my two cents.