first handgun, glocks, and prices

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by TheSadPanda, May 8, 2010.

  1. TheSadPanda

    TheSadPanda New Member

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    I'm thinking about getting my first handgun, and I really have my eyes set on a G23. Does anybody think this is a bad idea? I have shot a couple 9mm , 45, and 357 before. I didn't think the recoil was too bad at all, and was definitely something I could manage over time with practice. never shot a .40 though.

    Also, I live in St. Louis, MO area, and the prices I've been seeing seem REALLY steep. The numbers for the new ones are between $550-600. Does that seem right, or am I right to be hesitant on that?

    All input about being a first shooter, Glocks, and prices would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

    I'm also sorry if these questions have been beat to death, but I tried searching, and I'm just not coming up with the answers I'm looking for
     
  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Want the glock but not the price?

    Try the S&W Sigma, your best bang for the buck as a first handgun.

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    S&W SW9VE 9mm Stainless for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $344.00

    If you're anything like us, and you being here indicates you are, this won't be your only handgun purchase.

    The first handgun I purchased WAS NOT what I thought it would be! I wish someone gave me this sage advice prior to that purchase.

    Several of us have purchased firearms from Bud's Gun Shop and are happy with the experience.

    They are a very reputable dealer and their customer service is top notch!
     

  3. lkd

    lkd New Member

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    You can find used Glocks for much less if you're willing shop local pawn brokers or go to gun shows. You really won't go wrong with a Glock. Gunbroker.com has several listed in the $350-$450 range
    GunBroker.com - Search Results: Glock 23

    However, keep in mind that buying from Gunbroker has its own downside: Namely shipping and FFL transfer costs. You can generally expect that the cost will be $35-$75 higher than what you get for the winning bid just to get the gun shipped to an FFL and into your hands.

    If you're willing to make the drive, there's a chap selling a G23 in Belle, MO for $479. Glock 23 - 40 S&W Fixed Sights G23 - New in Box! : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com

    Hope that helps.
     
  4. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    You can find a lot of inexpensive guns in shops. How do they get there? Someone bought a gun without doing much research, and found out the gun was not "right" for them. I would suggest a good .357 revolver as a first gun (you can shoot mild .38Spl in in). Learn the basics. Then progress to other forms. Bad habits developed are hard to identify and break with a semi-auto as the first handgun.
     
  5. lkd

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    I (mostly) disagree with your comments, Dan:

    1) Claiming "Someone bought a gun without doing much research" really discards a lot of other reasons why pistols are sold: Upgrading, consolidating to a single caliber, estate reasons, etc. You don't know the reasons why they are there. Personally, I've sold many pistols that I've owned, not a single one was because I bought it without doing much research.

    2) Suggesting he get a revolver over an autopistol makes no sense. There are several reasons the autopistol has been popular for over 30 years in the civilian market, compared to the revolver (how many police forces still have revolvers as standard issue? I don't know of any in the US). I don't need to list them here, as it's pretty easy to find on the internet. Capacity and rapid reloading are the biggest reasons.

    3) Saying he should try guns out before buying them, however, we can very much agree one, but let me take it one step further for SadPanda:

    There is a range called Top Gun Shooting Sports and Indoor Range (Top Gun Indoor Range....Arnold, MO) in Arnold, MO. They offer gun rentals and advice/lessons. I _strongly_ advise you to shoot several types of guns (yes, including revolvers should you have an interest :p ) and make your determination that way.

    Hope that helps.
     
  6. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Sorry IKD if you read "all" in my "someone". While you and I may do research, there are still a number who don't. A pawn shop is a way to get rid of a handgun if you are strapped for cash, or can't sell it any other way. Some will pawn a firearm if it is not the "correct" one for them. Look at the history of the S&W .44Mag. It was the "latest and greatest" at its introduction, but some found out that it was not for them.

    It is easier to identify a flinch (or other shooter induced problems) with a revolver than a semi-auto. And, in most instances, a revolver is cheaper than a semi-auto. For some people, the revolver is the way to start out.
     
  7. carloglock19

    carloglock19 New Member

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    I think the 23 will be a fine choice! Just shop around and try and find the best price at your local dealers. If you can shoot the weapon before you buy it! I found that I shot .40 just as well as I do 9mm but that was my experience. Shopping online is fine as well but you wont get to handle the gun and then you have to add FFL transfer fees and tax (if applicable).
     
  8. TheSadPanda

    TheSadPanda New Member

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    Thank you to everyone for the input. And special thanks to lkd for looking that shop up for me. I actually go to school about a half hour away from there, so I will definitely be checking their store out in person
     
  9. utf59

    utf59 New Member

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    I had a Glock 23, and it was a great gun.

    The question nobody has asked you yet is what you want it for. Home defense? Concealed carry? Fun time at the range?

    It's a lot cheaper to shoot 9mm than .40. It's also a perfectly viable defense round.

    As posted above, go rent some things and see what you like best. We can all give you advice and suggestions, and clue you in on some things you might not have thought of, but ultimately, it's going to come down to which gun feels the best for you and puts holes where you want them.
     
  10. shadecorp

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    "As posted above, go rent some things and see what you like best. We can all give you advice and suggestions, and clue you in on some things you might not have thought of, but ultimately, it's going to come down to which gun feels the best for you and puts holes where you want them."

    YES.

    Same advice I give.
    Go to a range.
    Rent different guns,
    different calibers.
    Have Fun.
     
  11. sarsipius79

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    I have a Glock 27, Taurus PT145, and a S&W SIGMA9VE. all are fantastic carry pieces. It depends mostly on your cash situation. To me 500 for a Glock is about correct, it its brand new. you cant go wrong with a Glock. You can get a Millenium Pro from Taurus fro 350 ~ 400, and personally i love mine. Its had around 2000 rds through it and has FTF once. Coincidentally those are about the same numbers for my Glock and my S&W.
     
  12. TheSadPanda

    TheSadPanda New Member

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    Because I can't conceal and carry yet, It would be a home defense/ fun range gun. But my hope is that I would be proficient enough by the time I get conceal and carry to feel fully comfortable carrying it around.
     
  13. sarsipius79

    sarsipius79 New Member

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    Well personally i carry a Glock 27, which is a .40S&W. however i also have a .357SIG barrel for it and sometime i will carry the Glock loaded with .357SIG. In case i feel the need to shoot through car doors or what ever...;)
     
  14. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Sage Advice from a Wise man.
     
  15. sarsipius79

    sarsipius79 New Member

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    If you do the Sigma, you may want to reduce the trigger pull be removing one of the springs on the assembly. My Sigma had what must have been a 10lb trigger until i removed one of them.

    It has a spring inside a spring, supposedly to replicate the feel of the S&W DOA revolver triggers.

    JH
     
  16. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Try all the handguns you can. I have a Sigma in .40 and I've had Glocks. My hold is uncomfortable with a Glock, but works for the Sigma.
     
  17. group17

    group17 New Member

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    Buy a used 40 then add the 357 barrel for $100 from lone wolf.
    Cheaper than new.
    You end up with a two cal gun. Add a 9mm barrel and you have 3 guns in one.
    J&G Sales
     
  18. sarsipius79

    sarsipius79 New Member

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    Yep, that's what i did. Awesome pistol. Target shoot with the 9mm's and carry the .40's or .357's.

    JH
     
  19. lkd

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    I have the Lone Wolf 357SIG conversion barrel as well. It's fun to shoot, but I want to point out 2 things:
    1) Recoil on a 357SIG load is much higher than .40S&W. I recommend using a separate recoil spring assembly that's about 2-4lbs stronger. Otherwise the frame (and your hand) will likely take a beating. Remember, it's all about control.

    2) Technically, firing a different caliber in a Glock will void your warranty, if that's important to you. If you're not worried about it (I never have), I still don't recommend shooting 357SIG with just a barrel swap for any long period of time.

    Regarding 9mm...yeah, nothing wrong with that, although you might get stovepipes due to an overly-strong recoil spring. Don't take my word for that though...I shoot hand-loaded 155gr low-powder .40S&W rounds with my regular spring with no problems (when I shoot competitively on weekends), and I'd say the recoil is comparable to a 9mm, and I've never had a stovepipe. I'm just pointing out that _some_ people have said they have stovepipe issues with a 9mm barrel swap in a .40S&W Glock.
     
  20. TheSadPanda

    TheSadPanda New Member

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    you said it would void the warranty... what warranty does Glock have for its firearms?