First guns

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by David_SF, May 1, 2009.

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  1. David_SF

    David_SF New Member

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    As I told in another topic, a friend will gift me a Walther P99 9mm and the S&W 625 45ACP. And I would like it of someone would post the pros/cons of those guns. I think i'm especially going to like the P99, he told me the S&W is heavy and has high recoil.

    Of course I'm very happy with those handguns, but I would still like to buy a handgun by myself. So I'm searching for an solid, and not too expensive handgun. Can someone give me advice/tips?

    David
     
  2. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    For semi-automatics, I would go with the Ruger lineup (average around 300-350 dollars in my area).

    For revolvers, I would have to say that Ruger is also good, but so is the S&W lineup. They seem to be getting a little more expensive these days, though.

    The most important thing is these brands I named have to feel good in your hands. If they don't then it would be a moot point to get one.

    Good luck. :)
     

  3. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Walther P-99 is a very good handgun. High quality, decent sights, above average accuracy. Negative? Maybe the magazine release levers. They are a little odd in that you push down rather than in.

    The 625? It would be hard to imagine anything negative about this. the recoil from a .45 ACP in an N-Frame revolver is definately not excessive. I would call it a push. Heavy? Hardly. Beautiful workmanship in forged steel. Factory grips can be lousy. If you have medium to small hands replace the grips with the Pachmyer Professional series or Hogue. If you have larger hands use the standard Pachmyer grippers or decellerators.
     
  4. David_SF

    David_SF New Member

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    And what about a Glock? or is a Glock expensive?
     
  5. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    [​IMG]

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  6. David_SF

    David_SF New Member

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    :p

    But wait a second, is this just sarcasm or are Glocks truly bad quality? As far as i know Glock is used in several army's, so they shouldn't be crappy right?
     
  7. Dillinger

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    Actaully they are quite crappy. And they are quite cheap too, which is why a lot of armies are equipped with them.

    They are cheap to make, cheap to buy and easy to use / teach to a complete nitwit how to shoot it. It has very little in the way of complex, or moving, parts and it can take generous abuse and still fire.

    Outside of that, the things are inaccurate, have a trigger pull like some sort of Ancient Medieval torture and are known to be susceptible to "Explosive Disassembly" as can be seen by Cane's photos above...

    If my personal choice was a Glock or nothing, I would consider nothing for a moment before picking up the Glock. :D

    Tupperware is for the kitchen. Steel is for the battlefield.

    Hey Sarge - Didn't you have a Glock once? How'd that work out for you?

    JD
     
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  8. David_SF

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    I always thought Glock was quality, but now my opinion is changed. You guys are the experts. I mean, my knowledge about guns isn't that bad, but I don't know enough about them to choose the right gun for myself.

    I'm searching for durability, but not too expensive ( it doesn't have to be cheap, but at this moment i can't afford something like a Desert eagle:p )

    But which are the most durable guns? Colt? Taurus? Springfield?
     
  9. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Glock has a great public relations department. Problem is that nobody in their public relations department shoots! And their message (mantra) has never changed over the years. (Boy those guys are skating!) Shoots in water yada yada yada....shoots in mud yada yada yada....shoots on the moon! If you tell someone something over and over they just give up and believe it.

    I drank the glock kool-aid for years. My G22 never gave me a lick of trouble, but....one day I bought a Colt 1911. I haven't lost the smile on my face yet!

    Saying that the glock is reliable isn't a lie, it's a fact. Just like my '81 3.8L V6 three speed manual El Camino. It started every time I ask it, the AM radio worked as well as any other AM radio I had listen to and it got me to and from work everyday! I replaced it with an Eldorado ETC (COLT) and I haven't lost the smile on my face yet!

    Do yourself a favor and before you go buying something you think you need (Desert Eagle [​IMG]) spend some range time with your Walther and S&W, a great pair of beginner firearms! Ask questions here on FTF, asking is free and purchasing something like the Desert Eagle is and would be a huge and expensive mistake.

    Please do not take me wrong. Glocks are fine handguns (for some people, God bless them) but not me! I wear my bias on my sleeve and have no intention to drag you into my 1911 pattern pistol cult.

    I will however be happy to share my experiences and suggestions with any one that has the spare time to listen or read. [​IMG]



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  10. Dillinger

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    ^^ I'm John Dillinger, and I approve 100% with the above post! :D

    Desert Eagles are for two kinds of people. Guys with Little Man Syndrome and every kid who has ever played a video game but has never shot one. They are an awful, awful handgun. Huge. Non-Ergonomical. Slide Mounted Safety. Heavy. Impossible to conceal. Unreliable Gas System. Just a bad, bad idea....

    JD
     
  11. David_SF

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    So Glock isn't as tough as i thought.. however, thank you for the information. And btw; I didn't mean I wanted to buy a Desert eagle, it was just sarcasm bacause the deagle is expensive :p

    I don't have the P99 and S&W yet, but this month I and my friend are going to the shooting range, and shoot with some weapons of the club. I don't no which handgun we're going to shoot with, but I'm going to choose some nice ones. Maybe even a rifle, I'd always wanted to shoot an Ak-47. However, it will be a nice day. Maybe it's nice if I would tell about my experience that day?
     
  12. canebrake

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    Hey David, come on down to Ft Lauderdale and I'll give you a indoctrination into the Canebrake Arsenal!

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  13. canebrake

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    When you go see if you can shoot some of these:

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    1911 5" Government

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    SA XD5 Tac

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    HK USP45

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    S&W M&P45

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    Sig 220

    I bet I know which one you will like! (The Eldorado [​IMG])
     
  14. Dillinger

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    Of THAT list, I have shot all five, and I only carry one..... :rolleyes:

    JD
     
  15. Slawth

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    ^You two are relentless...

    OP-From the not-quite-fully-brainwashed-by-the-1911 camp:

    I am a fairly recent convert to the 1911 platform and I will offer that although all the adoration displayed above (I can almost hear Air Supply "I'm all out of Love" when cane starts talking Colt...) is justifiable (shoot one- you'll see. I wish I'd found the joy of a well tuned 1911 years and many hundreds of dollars ago) There is nothing wrong with an XD, or a Sig or a...

    There are many fine firearms out there for the first time gun buyer. I'd shoot as many as you can and figure out what feels most like an extension of your arm. Seriously, something that fits you so well that you feel like you don't ever want to let go of it. Buy that and shoot the **** out of it until you are ready to buy something else. Definitely don't sell yourself short though. Try and shoot anything you can get your hands on.
     
  16. RL357Mag

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    Personally, I would take the Luger....
     
  17. canebrake

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    Air Supply???? [​IMG]

    I suppose I do deserve that but hey, I even included some tupperware for the boy to try-out! Air Supply, some slack would be nice!

    You've been off grid for a while, what's up bro? [​IMG]
     
  18. canebrake

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    RL see that M1911A1? Well it shot the owner of that P08.

    If the role was reversed, I wouldn't be here! [​IMG]
     
  19. Slawth

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    LOL.

    ...it was the first mushy love song that popped into my head. I should be flogged for even having that in my memory bank somewhere.[​IMG]

    As the construction market continues (you are in FL- I know I don't have to tell you) to slide into the abyss, I have had to make some drastic changes in the company to ensure I am still here when this all blows over- one of which includes having a hammer in my hand again, instead of a mouse and a telephone for a while...
     
  20. David_SF

    David_SF New Member

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    Those five handguns seems really nice.. I will try them for sure. Especially the Sig and Colt.. both are beautiful. I hope they shoot as nice as they look like!

    I hope we can shoot soms rifles too, maybe an M14?
     
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