First encounter with a "looney" while carrying

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by cbw, May 25, 2010.

  1. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    I've been carrying now for about 7 months and I like it, I'm to old to run and smart enough (I believe) to know when to use my weapon. Well the wife and I are shopping at a major department store the other night when we ran into a loony. We are both handicapped and need to lean on a chair or a rack to try things on, well we are looking at shoes for me, when this younger woman pushes past my wife and mumbles something about getting out the isle. I was trying on shoes and her husband had manged to go over one isle and work his way behind me. My wife asked what she had said and this lady went off on her, telling her to get out of the isle and out of her way or she would be sorry. Next thing I know this woman is down on all fours trash talking to my wife saying some real nasty stuff about how and where she like to take it...you get my drift. The woman shoved here chest into my wifes and asked her to"take it outside", her husband kicked in something that started to get me going.

    My wife can handle her own, but I had to speak up at this point, so I said "this is not my business but your talking to my wife and I don't think you want me involved". The husband goes off and here comes more of the bring it outside stuff. I told him I was not scared at all and he declared that I was shaking in my boots. Then his wife moves into my wife's face even closer, my wife yells, do not touch me, get out of my face. After his wife attempts to push my wife back with her fake boobs, my wife had had enough and shoved her back. She flew back like a rag doll. Her husband grabbed her from behind and said"I've had enough of this" and drug her off. She did manage to grab a shoe form another rack and whip it at my wife, missing her but it bounced around and skimmed another guy shopper.

    I had no intention of dong anything but holding onto his wife after she hit my wife staying in the store and calling 911 for the police. Have people gone insane. This guy was maybe 5'10 190 I'm 6'1" 335. What happen to common cursorily and respect for elders (to a point).

    An Asian woman who was shopping asked us if they were our friends, made me sad to be an American thinking that others think this is the way we act!
     
  2. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Sign of the times we are in. The loons are not bat $hit crazy. The weirdos are now loons and the odd balls are now in the weirdo class.

    Mental health has definately taken a step back.
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    That is nuts! I aplaud your restraint in not smacking anyone upside the head.

    Did you report the problem to the store manager? I doubt the store would particularly want those two back for more, and the store might have a pic of them on the surveillance system that could be used to 86 them from the store in a permanent fashion.
     
  4. Gojubrian

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    I'm very sorry that happened to you and your wife. I can't believe how some people act in public,but it is getting worse. Sign of the times I guess. Sounds like crap that happened to me in school,sheesh.

    You did the best you could do and it certainly wasn't a time to draw your weapon,yet.
     
  5. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    It sounds like you and your wife handled things as well as possible under the circumstances.

    Unfortunately, our society in general has become irrational and self obsessed, not to mention downright obnoxious.
     
  6. c3shooter

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    One of the nice things about going to a pistol match- EVERYBODY is well spoken and polite. Everyone also has a .45 on their belt.:p
     
  7. WDB

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    Sorry to hear about this happening to you and your wife. Sounds like you both handled the situation as well as you could have. Also a good reminder why we carry just incase the nut cases were waiting in the parking lot for round two.
     
  8. doctherock

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    Good thing I wasn't there. I do not tolerate that kind of stuff. Thing the big guy would be trying to suck air through a swollen windpipe and the lady, well she wasn't being a lady so she would have been treated in the same fashion as the man. No call for that.
     
  9. spittinfire

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    I'm sorry you had to deal with it but it sounds like you handled things well. I agree with robo, sign of the times. People are getting crazier by the day.
     
  10. dnthmn2004

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    Well handled. :)

    I wonder how many coward store employees were just staring instead of kickin this a$$hole out.
     
  11. cbw

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    Thanks for all of the kind words, I though we did ok. The wife has her CCW but she has nt found her weapon of choice yet, so she does not carry. I'm sure the store surveillance system had it on tape. Two workers magically appeared and got real busy doing nothing in the area we were in after they left.

    One guy commented afterward that his day was not so bad after all! Which was kind of funny. It's amazing how now one was willing to come to our aid - NOT that we needed it.

    I agree that we were no where near the need for any weapon talk, or flashing let alone drawing. It was just nice knowing that the right people were going to win this. :D
     
  12. gorknoids

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    While I admire your ability to de-escalate the situation, I would have gleefully reported to the courthouse to explain why I had punched the beeyotches husband into unconciousness and then flushed their car keys down the nearest crapper. But that's just me. And I'm not kidding.
     
  13. Tackleberry1

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    You did well CBW...and you followed the number 1 rule.

    Be nice...

    Until...

    It's time, not to be nice...

    I'm happy for you that these goobers decided to disengage before they forced you to escalate the situation.
     
  14. Gojubrian

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    LOL Roadhouse. :D
     
  15. orangello

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    Yup, awesome mercedes in that movie.

    Considering that those two idiots put that store at risk of liability, i would think the store would have been more interested in banning them & making sure you guys weren't going to sue.
     
  16. WannaGator

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    Stupidity Is Infectious

    Sounds like the situation was well taken care of.

    People are getting rudier everyday.

    Guess the gene pool needs more Bacasill.:rolleyes:
     
  17. KalashnikovJosh

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    Would have tossed those two out on their asses if they came into our families' store with that ****.

    We keep a big can of sabre CS/OC spray under the counter.Thats for the loonies.

    For the real problems,we have other options......

    I think its a good idea to carry a non-lethal alternative like spray or a taser as well as a firearm.
    That way,you have the option of dealing with nuts like that without endangering yourself legally.

    In a perfect world,when people step out of line like that they should be subject to their intended targets' wrath.
    Maybe then we'd have some 'civil' in this civilization.

    But we live in litigious liberal la-la land.

    You should get some self defense spray.
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2010
  18. cbw

    cbw New Member

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    Pepper spray is ok , seams to work fine on "Operation Repo". I never gave it much thought, I'll think on that one, but there is a limit to how much I"m gonna carry before it's just not worth it.

    Thanks for the input

    cbw
     
  19. GoBlue

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    When I first saw the title of this thread I thought you were referring to a Canadian when you said "looney". The ones that cross into Michigan seem to be even more anti than the homegrown types for some reason.

    Nice people other than that though.
     
  20. KalashnikovJosh

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    I like the pepper spray with the CS/OC mix in it.
    I'm sure some of our peace officer friends can extrapolate on it better than I can,but as far as I know its a mix of military grade chemical tear gas and typical pepper spray.
    I dont know about the 'legality' of it in your area,I believe I heard somewhere that in some places the CS stuff is illegal-we wouldn't want to actually put a hurting on some scumbag thats terrorizing peaceful folk with their BS,now would we?:rolleyes:

    But anyway-I'd talk to a local cop if I was you.

    You can get some good advice on non-lethals from them,as they are trained to use them,and perhaps also talk to a lawyer.

    You should know (preferably have on retainer) a lawyer anyway if you go armed.

    As to size-you can get those really little key-chain canisters of Sabre in OC,I think I've seen the OC/CS mix I like but I dont recall......

    Anyway-kudos on your excellent display of restraint.

    Perhaps I might not have been so cool headed myself,but thats NOT a good thing.