First Build - finally on the move

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by LongBaller71, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. LongBaller71

    LongBaller71 New Member

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    I've been contemplating and researching all the options and variations on a good rookie AR build for the last few weeks. Was about to go brain dead with the overwhelming possibilities and could have ended up doing nothing for who knows how long. Over the last couple of days, I decided to just go for it and learn along the way. I'm sure there will be things I find I like or dislike and others I wish I could add but have to wait on; but here we go anyway!! PLEASE chime in with thoughts and suggestions.

    Here's where I'm at so far:

    Started with getting a Spikes stripped lower on the way thanks to a great guy here. Perfect.

    I was really having a hard time deciding on my upper. And when I thought I had it figured out ... backordered. Well, today I solved that problem. JSE Surplus is based just outside of town here; so when I got a little free time this afternoon I stopped in to see what they actually had in stock vs what is online. Turned out to be a great time to go. Didn't actually plan on a purchase today. But ...
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    DTI flat top upper - 5.56 NATO
    16" chrome lined 1x9 barrel
    Mil-spec bcg
    Midwest Industries Gen2 10" ff hand guard
    YHM Comp flash hider


    What made it easy was I got it for in trade for my RIA .45 even up. Came out just right IMHO.

    Here's what's up next that I've decided on:

    RRA lpk
    Magpul MOE stock
    Magpul backup rear sight
    Magpul backup front sight

    Not sure 100% on the optics yet, but leaning towards the Vortex SPARC.
     
  2. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    cool. keep posting pics of progress and eventually a range report!
     

  3. Cattledog

    Cattledog New Member

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    Looks like your off to a good start. IMO, DTI uppers are some of the more underrated options out there. I'm sure you'll be happy with it:D
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Great start and that looks like a quality upper in trade for your RIA you aren't shooting anyways.

    Well done sir, well done!

    JD
     
  5. LongBaller71

    LongBaller71 New Member

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    Thanks guys. It's all YOUR fault. Dam BRD! Ha.


    Added CAA folding front & rear backup sights today. Had planned on Magpul, but I liked these just as much and got a great deal on the pair.
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  6. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Nice. Those are well built sights and will definitely serve you well.

    We strived for quite a while in the "beginning" to break down some of the walls and clear some of the fog concerning the interwebz mystery of "how complicated the AR is".

    I am very happy to say several of us were able to debunk a lot of that bad info and spread Black Rifle Disease like a new, lovable plague. :D

    JD
     
  7. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    Could i get a link i am always trying to learn more about the actual mechanics of a firearms.

    OP looks great, love those sights. Keep us updated.
     
  8. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Look at the entire Sticky section of this sub forum. There is information, pictures, explanations and people doing builds after reading the same info. ;)
     
  9. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    Thanks, i will be doing some major reading tonight.
     
  10. LongBaller71

    LongBaller71 New Member

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    Thx!

    I'd say you guys did well! I've been reading and re-reading that group of stickies for days. SO glad there were so many well thought out and written threads. Definitely helps us not-so-organized folks out a ton.

    None of it is helping me decide on optics though. Grrrr! :{

    1-4x or red dot, red dot or halo, cheaper or break the bank? Aaaahhhh!! Sucks that I haven't used a scope in 30 years. (yes that's sad I know)
     
  11. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    You need one with a red dot and at least one with a scope.
     
  12. tacticalfun

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    Id start out with a bushnell elite 4x32 or a meprolight m21

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  13. Dillinger

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    I might have been the sponsor that started some of it, but there were a ton of contributors over the years from where we started.

    RL357Mag was a big supporter of understanding the weapon especially in the early days. He was a great guy to have involved.

    Dgunsmith was here in the early days as well and had a lot of advice that was given out just for the taking.

    slowryde45 was awesome! That guy knew the AR platform like nobodies business and he was always on line with new deals on parts, or knew of a small shop that was having a sale. He was a consummate professional member who never poo-poo'd anyone's choices, he just steered them towards making better ones. I really miss him, he was a great resource and he really knew his sh*t.

    junho806 was a college kid who was one of the first people I sponsored here. He went from knowing nothing except he wanted an AR, to building his own and posting tons of information about who he did business with, what he liked, what he didn't and really helped people understand that this platform really isn't that complicated.

    Canebrake - as always, came along and helped raise the bar a little further. Helped educate and back up good information with science and hands on experience.

    dog2000tj jumped on board and built one, then went on to be one of the first to build a .458 Socom version and test it for us. That opened a lot of eyes!

    A lot of people contributed a lot to help breakdown the myths of some of the other black gun sites that insist if you didn't take a second mortgage on your house when you bought the damn thing, it was going leave you dead in a ditch. :rolleyes:

    I love how many home assembly "builds" we have inspired here. It's a great source of pride that we were able to help people get what they wanted without going broke unnecessarily.

    JD
     
  14. LongBaller71

    LongBaller71 New Member

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    While I had just a few minutes, I wanted to post a little on the parts I've got again, and the company that I dealt with. * Haven't done anything quite like this so be patient. * Hope it's useful to at least someone out there. *


    Upper Receiver:

    DTI Del-ton 5.56 ~ This is a flat top style T-marked upper. The fabrication looks to be pretty good. Inspecting the inside found no burrs or signs of cutting corners. Something that was an initial concern given its lower end price point. The charging handle is basic and nothing special, but fits perfectly and functions. The installed ejection port cover and forward assist are the same; basic but perfectly functional. The integrated T-marked flat top rail is nicely finished and will suit my needs much better than one with a carry handle.

    The BCG is an M-16 mil-spec model. Super clean and well made. Was coated heavily in oil but that's how it should be new.

    The barrel is a DTI branded 16" lightweight chrome moly with a 1x9 twist. From what I've read here and other sites, it's probably manufactured by FN. Looks like it should serve its purpose well. There is a YHM 5C2 Phantom flash hider installed. Looks much better than the basic A2 and YHM seems to make good quality stuff.

    The hand guard is a Midwest Industries Gen2 Slim SS 12 free floating mid length. Really cool and well put together unit. Full length flat top rail with painted T-marks. The design is set with a huge number of locations to add additional rail pieces to suit just about any need or want. This one came with 3 3" pieces already installed at the 3-6-9 positions toward the muzzle end of the guard. They all look easy to move, but probably in just the right spot for a light and a fore grip.

    The last additions are the folding front and rear sights by CAA. These look to be pretty decent quality; although they are not metal. I like the spring release system they use better than the Magpul and they were just a bit less money. The rear has two sight styles that are changeable by rotating the center piece which is locked in by a spring help retention space below. You can also easily adjust the sight left or right with the control wheel. It has very crisp clicks for each change in setting. The front is also easily adjustable with an exposed wheel. Much easier to change than a couple others I looked at.

    JSE Surplus
    This is the local shop that I found this complete upper. My FIL actually stumbled across their retail location by accident a few weeks ago. Neither of us had any idea they were there even though they've been around for 10 years. This supplier has changed to primarily AR specialty house about 2-3 years ago. It seems their only advertising is word of mouth and their website. That surprised me, but they must be busy enough.

    The shop is pretty well packed with just about everything AR. Their website it good and easy to navigate. Only issue with the site is that they can fall behind a day in updating what in stock or not. Honestly not really an issue; just means they're doing a lot of business to keep up with. The store front is not large but well kept and has tons of stuff in hand to look at. Uppers, lowers, kits, accessories, parts, and optics. You could very easily walk in with cash and build your AR in one stop. The owners seem friendly enough and were willing to answer several questions without hesitation or making me feel like an idiot. Big plus right there. We shall see over time how their service holds up as I need more help and decide to move on future builds. I would recommend checking them out. Pricing and people certainly seemed good. Not sure how well the Internet ordering service is, but I suspect it's on par with most.

    So ... I'm not sure exactly what I accomplished by posting this, but there it is.
     
  15. tacticalfun

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    Mepro vs vortex. Winner mepro

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  16. LongBaller71

    LongBaller71 New Member

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    Man, I do wish the mepro was in the current budget. If I can keep myself sane while holding off until I get a couple of my pending re deals closed, that's a great looking option. Honestly, if I can get these closed before my wife throws me out; it'll be scoped out on another build and mepro or Eotech on this one.

    Trying to swing a deal with a local Craigslist guy on an Eotech 520 to use temporarily. Got him down to $110 but have to find time to go get it. It's not perfect but certainly would work for a while I think.
     
  17. LongBaller71

    LongBaller71 New Member

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    Ok..........
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  18. tacticalfun

    tacticalfun Active Member

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    .....sexy!!!!!
     
  19. kytowboater

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    Sexy sexy sexy! Damn lb!