First 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by JiroZero713, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    I'm going to probably start saving some cash away for a 1911 so here's the thing. I want you guys to sell me the 1911 and tell me what to do.


    It's looking like I am going to get this job tomorrow and I'll finally have cash flow coming in which will be great.

    I saw today a Mil-Spec Springfield with a blue bead blasted finish I liked.

    Then I also like the Kimbers...but the silly thing is...I just don't like the emblem of the kimber.....If I got a kimber I'd probably fill in the name because I don't like it.....and really I'd rather get a Taurus or a Mil-Spec so I can have a fun little project gun as I go along....send it off to get modified and what not....and I just like the overall looks of the Springfield.

    I hate the colts though....well the new Colts....if I could find a series 70 or WW1 Colt I'd get it.


    So what do you think?

    Of course I was thinking about getting a Taurus PT1911 with the rail on it since well I'd like the rail...and I like having the option of putting a flash light on there so it would be a good Home Defense backup gun.
     
  2. ktmboyz

    ktmboyz New Member

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    Have you looked at the kimber SIS only kimber logo is I think on the grips and that can be easily fixed with a new set. I would probably get anything but a Taurus but thats just me. I REally want to add one of these to my Kimber family. But I have to get the Ruger LCR home first.. This even has the rail for you :)
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  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Jiro - I can never tell if you are serious anymore, so I am going to respond, although I feel in a day or two I am going to regret it. :eek:

    Kimber makes a great god damn 1911. I have owned three, and other than a small FTF with the second round in my .22LR Rimfire, I have never had a problem.

    My .460 Rowland Project is built on my Kimber Custom II that was my regular carry weapon for several years.

    That was replaced by a 4.25" Raptor series from their "Custom" shop and it was everything that was advertised. I loved that gun and actually sold it, to a non forum member for exactly what I paid for it.

    Now, in the past three years I have been to SHOT twice and I have been REALLY impressed with the fit and the finish of the PT1911 from Taurus. This weapon is not made in the US. but made in Brazil.

    We recently ordered one for a friend of the shop who's son was coming of age and wanted a 1911. It was the best "bang for the buck" 1911 out there, and so far, it's been about 5 weeks, it hasn't come back....

    However, if you have never owned another pistol, the maybe a 1911 isn't the best choice for your FIRST pistol.

    However, there are plenty of opinions out here on the FTF Forum and you should definitely read them all before you spend your hard earned money...

    JD
     
  4. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    I have two pistols that are essentially mine.

    I started out on the .357 because of a suggestion of a friend saying that I should start with a revolver then move to auto loaders. I have pistols.

    I want a .45 and I thought what the hell 1911.


    While I like the kimber and have been told they are excellent honestly I really hate the logo. I know stupid reason to hate a good 1911 but eh....I want a good bang for the buck sort of thing.

    Main complaint about these new 1911s...the slide stop is very flat and hard to reach now and I'd need an extended slide release for it to feel comfortable to me.

    It's going to be a full size 1911 as I am not old enough to carry and I'd rather have a full size 1911 anyway. Either that or a Commander length but I'd rather have full size.

    Although I want American made....and I love the Taurus....but I want American and I'm really liking that Mil-Spec Springfields I'm seeing and they are about the same price as the Taurus but without the bells and whistles.....which probably doesn't bother me because I'll just get it customized in the end.

    It was about 600 bucks over there at the Gun Cellar....I also saw a 1911 for 400 dollars but that was the Firestorm...and I REAAAALLY hate their logo.

    I think they had one of those SISs in the store. I really liked it ....but it was 1000 bucks. A big chunk of change.
     
  5. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    Jiro, what's your budget? That's going to be one of the main factors to narrow your choices.

    For around $1000 (or less) Kimber Custom II's are very nice guns. If you're not going to carry it, you might want to take a look at the Custom Target II (it comes with adjustable sights). I'm sure you'll get over the logo once you shoot them. :)

    Since you like rails, check out one of Sig's 1911s. They've got a couple of models with rails. I tried one out when I was shopping for my first 1911 and liked it a lot.

    How about Para Ordnance? I'm in love with my P14-45. It needs to have some parts switched to make it perfect, but having 15 rounds of .45 goodness in a 1911 platform is heart warming. I have big hands and find it very comfortable.

    Taurus is a very popular brand in my country, mainly because our trade agreements with Brazil make them a lot cheaper than any other brand, with the exception of Bersa. Their 1911 sold well, and people are getting good results.
     
  6. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    Not sure yet. I'm still trying to decide.


    I might just save up 1000 bucks and get a Kimber as said....and another thing...I don't like adjustable sights on a 1911. I want fixed night sights on it....and none of the crimson trace bull crap.


    And yeah I was thinking Para but really for high cap .45 I'd rather stick to 10 Round guns like the CZ-97.

    This is going to be a single stack gun. That's what I want.

    I'm leaning towards the Mil-Spec Springfield as for a first time 1911 it can't be beat since it'll work and function good and I can always just modify it later if I want and when I'm in the Navy I can buy the more expensive 1911s later.

    Also I can't buy online. It's going to be at my local store and they like me so I can get a cash deal on it. But hell I might go with the Kimber all the same though...but I'm wanting something more like the WW1 WW2 guys had just for sake of history you know?

    And then later on shipping it off to someone to modify the **** out of it.


    Oh and clue to you guys....no Stainless for the most part....unless it's two toned with the frame being blued and the slide being stainless....I hate the look of full stainless 1911s. A 1911 can be concealed very easily even the full sized so why have it shining in the sun I say.
     
  7. JiroZero713

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    Double post


    Found this. I'm liking this. I'm sure I can find a used one around somewhere.

    Although I think I saw an SIS in my local gun shop for around 1000 as well.....I just...kinda don't like the SIS slide thing....I like the grip though.

    Kimber - Continuing The Legacy
     
  8. jeepcreep927

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    If you're looking for American made, chances are the S/A was made in Brazil. I have a full size mil spec (late 1990's) and a V10. Both made in Brazil. Just FYI. You do know that .45 caliber holes in the roof are harder to patch than .38 caliber ones? (told you you should never have mentioned that one)...
     
  9. JiroZero713

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    It was a .357 round actually same diameter though. Louder boom boom.
     
  10. NGIB

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    I currently own 4, but in the past few years I've owned over 2 dozen different 1911s. If you know you're going to set one up to your personal specs, the Springer Mil-Spec is a great platform to build on. Make sure it's a Mil-Spec and not a GI though as I see lots of GIs being advertised as Mil-Specs. Easy to spot though as the Mil-Spec has angled cocking serrations and the GIs are vertical.

    The Springers used forged frames and their build quality and customer service is very good. Don't worry about the parts being forged in Brazil as IMBEL has been doing this for a long time and makes a good product. For an entry level gun to build on - these are hard to beat for the money. The only drawback in my opinion is they only come in parkerized or stainless - and I really like blued guns.

    For value and "historical" reasons don't overlook a Colt. My latest purchase was a NIB Colt Commander for $695 at my local store. It's accurate, reliable, makes a good carry gun - and it's a Colt. The fact that it's a nice blue finish was the final selling point for me as it is just a pretty gun. Should you decide to carry one, a Commander is just a little lighter and shorter which helps some. Mine is staying as is - I like simplicity over bells & whistles.

    As far as Kimber goes, I currently own a 1st series (circa 1997) Gold Match and it's a great target quality gun. I've owned some recent models as well and they're solid guns. Since you intend to build one to your needs, why spend the extra money up front for things you may not want or need.

    Anyway, this is my 2 cents on the matter and here's a pic of my Colt and my Kimber...

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  11. jeepcreep927

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    Right, .38 caliber bullet. I thought it was only one boom dude?:D
     
  12. JiroZero713

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    Thing about the colts is I hear alot of bad things....I mean like weird fire pin etc etc.

    Or is this not true anymore and they went back to the old way?
     
  13. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    You should be operating the slide stop with the thumb of your left hand. You right thumb should only operate the safety. Proper hold of the 1911 is essential to proper function.
     
  14. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    When I see that SIS edition, all I can think of is that someone should be buying it for their sister.
     
  15. JiroZero713

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    I use the two thumb grip now. Much more stable hold for me and much more accurate. Slide release operation with right hand is much more comfortable for me.

    Not changing the way I started gripping just because of a 1911. If I can get an extended slide release then I'm going to do that.
     
  16. NGIB

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    The series 80 Colts use a firing pin block and so do Kimber, S&W, and many others. I've never seen it as a problem myself but some folks think that Satan himself though this one up. Also note the extended slide stop & safety on my Kimber, I put these on as this is my main competition gun...
     
  17. Franciscomv

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    Jiro, if you're looking for something with a "historic" feel to it, go for a Colt. I've only owned to Colt firearms, so I'm far from an expert, but they worked flawlessly.

    They offer a WWI replica which is quite nice. But if you want to modify the gun, a 1991 series model would be a better idea. They are nice guns to build upon.

    And don't worry about the slide release. I use my right thumb to operate it, too. An extended release should take all of five minutes to install.
     
  18. JiroZero713

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    Ah I see. Yes I know alot of people who had that firing pin block and hate it.

    I'd probably replace it later myself....kind of like how I'd take out the revolver gun locks...just one more thing that could go wrong.
     
  19. JiroZero713

    JiroZero713 Active Member

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    Eh....I don't like Colt right now guys....well not modern colts.

    Way to ****ty towards Civilians. I'm not giving them a damn DIME.