Firing .410 or 20ga in a 12gauge

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by RufusTFirefly, Sep 11, 2011.

  1. RufusTFirefly

    RufusTFirefly New Member

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    Hello, first post here.

    I was wondering if there is anything on the market that let's, say a .410 or 20ga shell, to be fired in an otherwise stock 12ga. shotgun.

    Thank you,

    Rufus
     
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  2. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Don't know the answers but my guess would be that no manufacturer is going to market a product that violates every safety rule of gun usage and risk that kind of liability. A 20 ga or .410 shell simply cannot be fully supported in a 12ga chamber...just like trying to put a .22lr in a .30-06.

    Best bet would be interchangible barrels but even then I don't know if the bolt and firing pin would line up on the different diameter shells, how would the different calibers feed through the mag tube? All kinds of problems here.

    Now a question...why?
     

  3. RufusTFirefly

    RufusTFirefly New Member

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    My girlfriend likes to go shooting as much as I do. I have two shotguns, they're both 12ga. and she doesn't like the kick of the 12ga. I was just wondering if someone might be manufacturing some specialty shells that were sized to chamber in a 12ga, but were actually a lesser load. I know I'm thinking WAY outside the box here, but I just had to ask. Or perhaps some kind of sabot type "sleeve" that could be put over the smaller shell to increase it's size for 12ga use. If I had a reloading setup (which I may in the near future) I suppose I could load up a batch of "light" loads just for her.

    Rufus
     
  4. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    As far as I'm aware there's no way to chamber a smaller gauge shell in a larger gauge shotgun. Your best bet would be to buy low brass ammunition or get a smaller gauge shotgun.
     
  5. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Aw, come on. Buy the little lady her own gun. That is the only answer. :D

    I know they have 'recoil pads' which might make shooting that 12 gauge a little more tolerable for her.
     
  6. RufusTFirefly

    RufusTFirefly New Member

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    Okay guys, thanks, I see where this is going. I had a feeling, but ya know sometimes you just have to ask... :eek:

    I guess a .410 or 20ga may just have to be my next firearm acquisition. :D


    Rufus
     
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  7. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Remington. I believe, markets a reduced recoil shell. You might also look at smaller load target or bird shoot, might help with the recoil. Other than that the recoil of a 12 ga is pretty much non-negotiable. Do you have a recoil pad on the butt?

    Winchester WinLite Low Recoil Target Loads WL12FL8, 12 Gauge, 2 3/4", 26 grams, 980 fps, #8 Lead Sho - Able Ammo Apparently so does Win...:D
     
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  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    Rufus, there is a company in Houston Texas that makes what are called tube sets for shotguns, so that different sized shells can be shot in a 12ga shotgun. you didn't say what type of shorgun you had, but they only made them for SxS or O/U shotguns. the company is called Briley Manufacturing and the also make choke tubes for shotguns. they have a website if you wanted to check them out. i don't know what your budget is, and it might be cheaper to also buy another shotgun in a smaller gauge. because the tube sets are not cheap. just a little info for you.
     
  9. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Very light 12 ga loads in 1 oz or even 7/8 oz have very little recoil. Look for loads labeled "Ultra-lite".
     
  10. RufusTFirefly

    RufusTFirefly New Member

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  11. zimm

    zimm New Member

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    I have seen the full length tubes used by skeet and sporting clays shooters, though I believe they can only be used in break action shotguns. There used to be chamber adapters, however, which only fit the chamber section of the gun so that the shot charge traveled down the guns own bore. I don't know how they pattern, but they were available in a wide variety of configurations. And if you only load one at a time, you could fire them in a pump. If they're still on the market, Brownells might be worth a look.
     
  12. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    Savage made the "410er" for many years. it was a fairly short(about a foot) 410 adapter for 12 ga. break actions.
     
  13. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    Sweet cheeks.....

    Remington, 20 gauge, Auto.......Mod. 1100........?????????/:eek:
     
  14. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I had a friend who picked up 16 gauge shells by mistake... so he wrapped them with duct tape and tried them in his 20 gauge. nice browning bottom eject type pump shotgun ruined beyond repair.
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    beings they are pumps, as some suggested reduced recoil loads is a nice option. another would be, see if your wife would like her own shotgun, maybe in 20ga. then the two of you could shoot and practice together. BTW, my wife likes shooting my 12ga pump, but hates my 12ga O/U shotguns!
     
  16. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I have seen those 20ga/410 adapters for 12 gauge shotguns a few years ago,I also remember seeing a .44mag adapter for a 12 gauge--I can't imagine that being much good for anything.
     
  17. Sniper03

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    Rufus,

    I would suggest getting her a good 20 ga. Semi Auto. Like a Remington 1100.
    It's going to last a long time and she can hunt, shoot clays or whatever. The new shotguns have the 3" chamber and will fire the standard 2 3/4 light loads and higher power loads. There are other great semis out there. That are of good quality and in a decent price range.

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  18. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    I knew I had seen those somewhere before.
     
  19. dhyayi

    dhyayi New Member

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    only 100-001-764 are available, others out of stock

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