Firefighters In Oregon

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by dnthmn2004, May 29, 2009.

  1. dnthmn2004

    dnthmn2004 New Member

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo4TvldKtoU]YouTube - Fox News, Firefighting[/ame]

    I can't think of anything to say right now because I'm so infuriated by this.
     
  2. user4

    user4 New Member

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    Another reason why my home state is burning.
     

  3. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    The video appears to be a year old...

    That aside, I think it is time to step-up our immigration laws. Either learn to speak effing english, or you can go the eff back to where you came from.

    eff, eff, eff, eff, eff..............:mad::mad::mad:
     
  4. dnthmn2004

    dnthmn2004 New Member

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    I didn't even look at the date :rolleyes:. I got the video in my email this morning and rushed to youtube to find it and share it.
     
  5. falseharmonix

    falseharmonix New Member

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    Meh, no harm no foul.

    anyone know if there is some law against reverse discrimination? oh wait, our new justice thinks its okay to use her race and upbringing to interpret the law.....so this must be perfectly legal....:mad:
     
  6. jng2985

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    lose you're job because you only speak English in AMERICA? are you F'ing kidding me....
     
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  7. CA357

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    Press one for Socialism.
     
  8. BPond

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    I'm not singling anyone out, but the term, "Reverse Discrimination" is pure crap. There is only discrimination, and whites sure as hell don't have a corner on the market.

    Look at this failure Obama nominated to the Supreme Court, for example. It's OK for her to prattle on about how superior Mexicans are (sorry, latino/hispanic/chihuahua/WTF-ever), because braindead liberals think only whites can be racist or discriminatory.

    Don't fall into their trap. Liberals harbor more racist thoughts and engage in more racist activities than anyone else ever has.
     
  9. MrKimber

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    I remember this last year. Some did loose thier jobs because of the inabilaty to speak spanish. The state got a huge rash of crap from the people over this but they just ingnored the people. Oh, it's not reverse descrimination, it is "politically correct descrimination" as from the mouth of Obama's wife!
     
  10. user4

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    Go easy kiddies. This is another hot button topic. Attack the subject, not the person. Neither of you guys are idiots or retards, and if there is any racism, it was not evident in anyone's post.
     
  11. dunerunner

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    I really hate the 10 character limit!!
     
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  12. Minionsram

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    You aint the only one that is speachless on this one Brother! Some BS going on in the US of A.
     
  13. Gojubrian

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    Does anyone know what actually happened with this?

    Did they lose their jobs for not knowing the language of a new hire? Especially when they were good enough for the job at the beginning?

    That would be a disgrace if anyone other than a translator lost their job for knowing only english!
     
  14. Cguy

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    Rumors Again

    Just to let you know, this supposed firing happened 3 years ago.

    When I say supposed, it turns out (like most of these stories) to not be true.

    Here is what the Oregon Department of Forestry has to say about this
    (Oregon Department of Forestry Firefighting crew bosses required to speak English)

    The old saying, “Rumor can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on,” is borne out in information circulating on the web and elsewhere that claims the Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF) is firing and demoting fire crew bosses that do not speak Spanish.

    This is not the case. Here are the facts:
    ODF has no requirement that its employees speak Spanish, and does not demote or fire anyone because they don’t speak Spanish. And to our knowledge, no crew boss on the private contract fire crews we use has ever been fired because of inability to speak Spanish.
    ODF and its partner agencies contract with private companies to supply fire crews for frontline firefighting work. The crews work under the guidance of incident management teams fielded by ODF and other agencies to manage large firefighting operations.
    Because English is the language of firefighting in the United States, we must have the ability to communicate with all crews. Accordingly, the contract requires that the leaders of contract crews speak English. This requirement covers the crew boss and the three squad bosses on a typical 20-person crew.
    Companies may choose whom they hire for their crews. If a company elects to hire employees who do not speak English, then the supervisors of that crew must speak English as well as the language of any crew members who don’t speak English. This is a matter of good communication, safety, and effectiveness for the agencies that hire crews under the contract. Over the years, this system has established a record of solid firefighting performance and safety.
     
  15. WDB

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    A local business owner shared a story in our small business development meeting that he has 40+ hispanic employees that speak little to no english. He relied on the few hispanics that do speak english to comunicate to the employees. Our state offers free on location classes for people who want to learn english as a second language as long as there are 12 people who take the class, the 12 people included family members. Only two people signed up for the class (an employee and his wife). He ended up paying for the employee and his wife to learn english and bought Rosettia Stone (spelling is wrong) so his managers could learn spanish. It didn't take long before the few that could speak english were found out to be translating to there advantage and not expressing company goals. Several months latter those few are gone and he has 100% involvement from his spanish speaking employees in learning english as a second language.

    My company is small and even when it was much larger I found it important that those who worked for me understand the words I speak. I don't discriminate but do require that employees are able to comunicate verbally and in writing in english.
     
  16. matt g

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    Thanks for clearing that up. Another Fox News spinfest, as I suspected.
     
  17. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    To everyone else, personal attacks, name calling and infighting will result in time off from the forum to cool down.

    It's still just the internet and fighting on it is still just like running a race in the Special Olympics.