Firearm Suggestions

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Kamarathin, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. Kamarathin

    Kamarathin New Member

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    Hello all,

    So in a recent thread I asked about a Taurus revolver and the results of that thread have made me step back and re-evaluate my choice of firearms in general.

    I've been out of the hobby for about 20 years so I'm a tad rusty. I grew up hunting using an old bolt action .22 and a break open single shot 20 gauge as a kid.

    In the Army I was trained on the M9 and M16A2, but issued a 1911.

    While working security I carried a 1911 as well. I have a fondness for the weapon.

    Now I'm looking for a rifle that can be used for double duty for defense and hunting, and a pair of pistols, one for conceal carry and one for the wife to use for home defense.

    Ideally, they would all use the same ammunition and my wifes pistol must be a revolver.

    I am open to any and all suggestions.
     
  2. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Must be revolver.

    That makes it pretty easy. Caliber should be .357. For home defense, I'd go for a larger frame like the Ruger GP100 or similar S&W. That would mean concealed carry would be along the lines of J frames in 357 or Ruger SP101.

    Now were you wanting the rifle to shoot the same as well? You could look at lever action carbines in 357. I'm not sure of it's practicality as a hunting round, but it would make a mean defense combination.
     

  3. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Kinda narrows the field having everything in the same caliber. Maybe an ar, glock and ruger all chambered in 9mm?
    I can't imagine your wife would enjoy anything bigger than that.
     
  4. j4454

    j4454 New Member

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    My suggestions. Rifle=AR chambered in .308 there a lot out there in AR rock river is always a good start. Pistol I would go 1911 I'm found of Springfield loaded for the $ but again a lot of good options. Then ya can get your wife a revolver chambered in 45acp. I would make my carry home/home defense the same system. Makes it easy to train with and not screw up when it counts. My 2 cents
     
  5. lbwar15

    lbwar15 New Member

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    How about this. The s& w governor for your wife which is 410/45lc/45apc. Then you could use the 1911 45apcc and pick up a 45lc riffle.
     
  6. lbwar15

    lbwar15 New Member

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    Well then you would have to get 45 apc and 45lc
     
  7. Werminator

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    I too think that your criteria really limits you to. 357... there are some good options for. 44 mag too... as of right now though... only a.pistol caliber carbine could supplement other calibers...
     
  8. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    1911 and a S&W revolver that accepts the .45ACP.
     
  9. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    The most practical caliber to fit all three is 357mag. Maybe a Ruger GP100, Ruger SP101 (or S&W alternatives for each), and a Henry lever rifle.

    But the most practical decision is purchase guns of more than one caliber. 357mag can still work great for both pistols, but a true rifle caliber would be ideal if you intend to hunt anything that weighs over 100lbs.

    A 12ga is pretty well the most versatile HD/hunting long gun on the planet. Or you could go with a rifle. Just look for a rifle caliber in something common (translation: easy to acquire, variety of loads/weights, and affordable appetite) like 30/30, 270, 30-06, 308. And keep in mind that rifle calibers can be precarious HD options if your surroundings are less than rural.
     
  10. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Am I mistaken here? The .357 magnum cartridge that fits in a revolver will not fit in a semi-auto, would it? I thought the .357 magnum is a revolver round and the .357 sig is a semi-auto round and they are not interchangeable. If this is the case, the OP is going to need to buy different ammo for each gun. So he might as well get different calibers if that helps in choosing guns.

    Or am I mistaken? :confused:
     
  11. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    That's what I thought 'til I saw this...

    http://www.magnumresearch.com/Browse.asp?Category=Desert+Eagle:Mark+XIX

    I guess there are exeptions to every rule..:cool:
     
  12. cakesterkiller

    cakesterkiller New Member

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    check out magnum research they do something pretty cool with the .357 mag.... and yes the .357 Sig is a .40 s&w brass necked down to a 9mm and they aren't even close to interchange.... i like the idea of the wife getting something hammerless the hubby getting an eagle and a lever gun all chambered in .44 mag.... i know the wife probably souldn't have anything that big just based on the fact that they kick like a mule but if she's a good shot she only needs to shoot it once and ya can hunt more with it out of the rifle.... also a judge for each of ya and the circuit judge carbine would make an awesome plan b that gives everybody the choices of shot shells (for defense) or solid bullets (for hunting)
     
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  13. Kamarathin

    Kamarathin New Member

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    What about this:

    Ruger .40 S&W
    Pitbull .40 S&W
    Carbine chambered for .40 S&W

    This will allow for a very common round and I won't have to deal with moon clips for the revolver.
     
  14. Jstrong

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  15. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Sounds like a rather ingenious design from Charter (funny how they come up with those). I want to track one of those down and see how it works.

    However, the 40 S&W round is pretty snappy in a semi-auto. I would expect it to be even more so in a revolver.
     
  16. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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  17. utf59

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    OP,

    If you like the 1911 and hers must be a revolver, and they must both be the same caliber, S&W makes a .45 ACP revolver that is very popular. And using moon clips makes reloads easier.

    Is there a particular reason you want both pistols in the same caliber? If you're planning to buy large quantities of ammo to get a bulk price, I can see an advantage. But depending on where you are, you can buy whatever quantities you want at Walmart or Academy for a better price than you can find at online ammo dealers, even in bulk.

    Since you didn't specify that the rifle needs to be the same caliber as the pistols, I would base the decision more on what you plan to hunt/what part of the country you're in.

    You've got some great suggestions for pistols. A little more info about your goals for the rifle would help narrow things down.
     
  18. utf59

    utf59 New Member

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    Somebody already posted links to the Magnum Research and Coonan. The difficulty with an autoloader chambered in .357 is that the rim makes stacking the rounds in a magazine difficult. But it's a problem that can be overcome, as evidenced by all the .22 autoloaders that are out there.
     
  19. Kamarathin

    Kamarathin New Member

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    Hunting would be small game.
    • The overall goal is to have something I can use in a bug out situation and not have to worry about multiple types of ammunition.
    • Making sure I have a firearm I can conceal carry while working my store.
    • Making sure my wife gets a revolver (as those are her preference).
    • Making sure I ahve a weapon that can be used successfully for both personal and home defense as well as a weapon for hunting small game.

    Keeping it as simple as possible is how I want to go and if I can get all three firearms in the same caliber I'm going to be a very happy camper.

    So far, the .40 S&W route seems to be the only way to go to be 'ideal' and avoid additional supplies or ammunition compatibility issues. For example the Pitbull can be "speed loaded" from the magazine of the semi-auto pistol, the round is very easy to get a hold of, and the round is strong enough to take out small game.

    Am I completely off my rocker on this? Off-hand, it seems like a solid idea, but honestly, if I'm being too idealistic here, I'm open to hearing that and going back to the drawing board and using the excellent advice I've received thus far.
     
  20. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    What are you considering "small game". Small game as in squirrels, rabbits, etc?

    The most prolific small game round is the .22 long rifle. Also the most prolific round period. Anyone planning for a SHTF scenario absolutely should have this in their kit. A .40 S&W on something like a squirrel or rabbit would be overkill.

    I'd be careful about trying to arrive at the perfect round for all needs. There just isn't one. It can be done far better with two or three rounds.