finding broken guns

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing Forum' started by brokengunguy, Sep 5, 2012.

  1. brokengunguy

    brokengunguy New Member

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    I am a hobby Gunsmith I have been looking for broken guns in the
    Paulding county area of GA.
    I have had no luck with Craigslist, pawnshops,Gunsmith shops.
    Im open to any ideas.
     
  2. robertb6112

    robertb6112 New Member

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    I think Jg sales has gun smith specials. Guns that need some work.
     

  3. brokengunguy

    brokengunguy New Member

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    Yeah I checked that out and the only thing I saw what's 5k and that's not the kind of broken guns I'm looking into.
    I need to find something that I can post an ad without it being flaged because people are scarred of the word gun or firearm.
     
  4. superc

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    Hi. It is a great hobby. It is one of mine too. Nothing like buying an old antique missing a part or two, then restoring it to full function. Get a C&R license. Very little downside other than the record keeping and if you aren't in NY, NJ or someplace like that it lets you cross a state border while shopping for 50+ year old acquisitions. Print up some business cards, your name, broken guns wanted, and your phone # and email address.


    gunbroker.com
    pawn shops, keep trying, give them your card and tell them you are looking for busted guns.
    local gun stores and smiths, ibid.
    gun shows. Spread around your cards and keep a few copies of your FFL in your pocket when you go with some cash.

    You should start finding them fairly quickly.

    Bottom of the barrel, check out Numrich, Sarco and Century Arms, sometimes they have stuff no one else wants.
     
  5. canebrake

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    I got none to sell. Keep lookin'.
     
  6. brokengunguy

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  7. brokengunguy

    brokengunguy New Member

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    I'm sorry collect and restore correct? How much would I run on that license?
     
  8. canebrake

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  9. BRAD313

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    I go to pawn shops and look at the guns then go back like 7 months latter and point out things I need to do to them and work out a good price for them but make sure u know what u getting
     
  10. chuckusaret

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    Century Arms in Delray Beach Florida sells guns in need of repair.
     
  11. brokengunguy

    brokengunguy New Member

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    I need somewhere closer than that I don't mind traveling but not state to state.
     
  12. superc

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    C&R is curio and relic Federal Firearms License (FFL). That means from your perspective the gun is more than 50 years old and rare enough to be called a curio (such as a German Luger, a Colt peacemaker, an Ariska rifle, etc.). It allows you to acquire old broken guns across state lines and says you are a collector. You are not a dealer and the license does not allow you to sell guns as a business. Really IMO the only person you should ever sell a gun to is an FFL holder. Your drawback is unless you want ATF to come knocking on your door you bring the fixed guns to an FFL dealer and sell them to him. The C&R license is of no value to you whatsoever if you are looking for new guns. Alternatively, new guns, broken or not, are rarely placed for sale. They are usually just repaired. There is a whole forum here about C&R licenses and you should visit it.

    BTW, learn what is junk (i.e., not worth the time and effort) and what isn't. Know your limitations. If the frame is damaged or it has been in a fire don't buy it. What you are looking for is old guns from major makers that just need a new spring or a small part. You will find some parts are almost impossible to find. If the part is easy to find, someone else would have already done the repair.

    Forget about finding old Colt 1911s or Lugers with a broken part. It happens, but since the replacement parts can be quickly located on the Internet, it doesn't happen much. What you will mostly be locating is things like early Stevens .22 rifles with missing or broken firing pins, old Sears & Roebuck shotguns with broken stocks, Hopkins and Allen spur trigger revolvers with broken leaf springs, Spanish revolvers with broken hammer spurs or rusted frozen triggers, and stuff like that. Just about any major countries military weapons have plenty of parts easily available for them, so they probably won't go up for sale as a broken gun very often. If they do, something isn't right. A broken Mauser rifle, even one from WWI is pretty easy to find parts for, so the question becomes, what else is wrong? Etc.

    I had to wait 20 years to locate missing parts for one gun (purchased at a pawn shop) which I eventually restored. You may also want to take some courses at your local community college and learn to run a lathe and a mill. I did. Learn about welding too is my suggestion. You will probably never want to weld anything, but it is a very good way to learn about the classes and different types of steel, other metals and the significance of heat treating. A firm called Micromark sells some pretty decent small (micro) mills and lathes that run off 110 volts. Buy those after you complete the courses, not before. Making new parts from scratch, out of the proper metal, is sometimes the only way to fix an old gun with a broken part (such as a trigger or a hammer spur).

    Check out Brownells for tools and materials.
     
  13. brokengunguy

    brokengunguy New Member

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    This is very helpful info.
    One more question what would
    Be the best source of small tools.
    I have old hand downs not in the best of shape. I have no problems getting the bigger tools.
     
  14. Josh1158

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    Check armslist.com if you dont see one you can put up a want add.
     
  15. brokengunguy

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    Thank you that will be a good start on my search it kinda like a Creaglist for guns I like it.
     
  16. BRAD313

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    Amazon has some nice tools and there's no sales tax
     
  17. Josh1158

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    I realy like it too. I normaly scroll through it once a day or so just to see whats out there. I think its good just to see what prices things are goin for.
     
  18. superc

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    Gosh, Midway, Brownells, Numrich and go ahead and order the catalog from Micromark. Lots of interesting (although sometimes a little higher priced than elsewhere) stuff in there.