Finally decided on on my choices for an OC handgun.

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by MTHunter, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. MTHunter

    MTHunter New Member

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    Finally got the opportunity to handle a Baby Eagle. I am glad i did not just buy one since it just did not fit right in my hand. The 2 finalists are the SR40 and the SR1911. Both fairly affordable and fit my hands like a glove but still have questions for anyone with experience with these or similar weapons as well as the power of the .45 ACP and .40 S&W.

    My main concern is reliability.

    Trigger pull heavy or fairly light?


    As for my questions about the cartridges a little explanation might be necessary. Most of my hunting is done in Washington State on the Reservation where my wife is a tribal member. Lots of bear and cougar and some wolf. Bears include black, brown and grizzlies so I need something that could be capable of penetrating the thick bones of a large bear( even the black bears are quite large, we took one that weighed over 800lbs). Cougars over there are quite aggressive and regularly stalk and attack hunters. Wolves not many there as they were just reintroduced to the reservation in the last 5 years. These are all predators that there is a high chance of running into in the areas where we go hunting so the gun is not only for carry/home defense but also must be sufficient to put down a large predator when out hunting should the need arise. Neither are Ideal I am sure but they are the limit of what I am able to handle in a handgun so I just need to know which would be more capable.
     
  2. jjones45

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    A 40/45 is not recommended for stopping a bear, but if I gotta pick between the two i guess id go 45. May I suggest a glock 20 or 10mm 1911? Not much more snappy than a 40/45 and way more powerful with the full loads. If you like the sr40, why not go sr45 and get a couple more rounds than the 1911. I have the sr45 and love it but have heard good things also about the sr40 and sr1911. Both should be reliable. Im sure plenty of intelligent advice soon follows.
     
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  3. nitestalker

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    In most cases a handgun is a last resort. If you have that many wild denizens you should just consider a nice pair of "Running Shoes".:D
     
  4. JW357

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    I don't have any personal experience with those specific firearms and I'm no ballistician but here's my take. Honestly I would say a .44 Magnum or a .10mm. But if you think you can't handle them right now I would probably go with the .40 S&W. You'll probably get better penetration, which is what you want against those big ole creatures.
     
  5. 304inc

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    With hydrashocks
     
  6. nitestalker

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    If you want to escape death by a Grizz using a .40 S&W? Shoot yourself.:D
     
  7. MTHunter

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    Thanks guys while not ideal the .40S&W and the .45 ACP is the limit of what I can handle so I will have to make do. I won't be the only one carrying a sidearm while hunting my wife and my father in law will also both be carrying a .40 ( I never go hunting alone because my wife would kill me if I didn't take her along) so hopefully the volume of lead will make up for the shortcomings of both rounds. Grizz sightings are pretty rare but prints and such are fairly common to find so the chance of running into a Grizz is slim but still possible. Black bear and cougar are so numerous that it is almost guaranteed to run into them. Primarily because in my wife's tribe it is taboo to eat bear so no one hunts them and the population has pretty much exploded.

    I chose these to and not some the possibly superior weapons out their because they both fulfill all my requirements for a weapon. They both have manual safeties and that is an absolute requirement for me. I won't even allow someone in my house if I know they are carrying one of the many pistols out there that do not have a safety. Both are full size which is another requirement I just am not a fan of compact handguns.
     
  8. AR10

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    Glock 20 is issued to Greenland police and park rangers, to persuade grumpy P bears.
     
  9. 304inc

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    I chose these to and not some the possibly superior weapons out their because they both fulfill all my requirements for a weapon.

    Umm... not exactly bear slayers, I carry a .40 and love it, just don't know if I'd go against a grizzly with one. Hell maybe there fine, but then again what rifles are you hunting with? You know a pistol is used just to get to a rifle.
     
  10. phildenton

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    A rifle or shotgun w/ slugs would be ypur better bet, especially if you are already out hunting. Have you tried a 357 mag w/ a 4" barrel? To me felt about the same as shooting a 45 recoil wise. Is where youre talking about around the colville area?
     
  11. MTHunter

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    Colville Reservation. And yes I have tried a .357 and it damn near flew out of my hand and into my face. My grip was probably wrong because of my lack of experience with revolvers. But it left a sour taste in my mouth for revolvers ever since.
     
  12. Anna_Purna

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    I am sorry, but a hydra-shock is useless on bears, get a hard cast lead bullet, and hope you don't ever see one. You want a bullet that can penetrate past its thick hide, and fat layer to get into his shoulders and break bone, or into the vitals. I work with animal control for the dept of fish and game and the Alaska wildlife conservation group, and we have captured bears and operated on them and found hollowpoints barely penetrating into their hide.
     
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  13. Anna_Purna

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    Are you actually going to hunt these animals, or out deer hunting on their turf? Make lots of noise and stick close together if you are just hunting other kind of animals. If you are going to hunt bear with a 40 or 45, well..., I was a pleasure reading your posts. ;)
     
  14. MTHunter

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  15. MTHunter

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    Deer and elk hunting on their turf . We do try and just scare any other critters off but sometimes that doesn't work. When we were living over there our survival was decided by whether or not we could get a deer or an elk every time we went hunting. There was one time where we had no choice but to put down a momma black bear because she was trying to push us away from the elk we had just taken. Fortunately we were in an open field so our rifles were fine for the job but in the woods they definitely are not. The brush is so thick in some places you can't even see your own feet while walking through the woods. We can easily be out walking for 10 mi or more while tracking the deer or elk. That is why we are choosing pistols and not another long gun.
     
  16. Anna_Purna

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    That is why I just don't understand why you are limiting yourself to something that won't do the job intended for. A 357 at the least is recommended. I grew up on a Colt 357 handgun. They will generate almost twice as much foot-pounds of energy as the 40 and 45. They can penetrate through a bears hide, but your 2 choices rarely will, if ever.
    Unless you really can't handle the 357, then I understand. Have you ever shot one?
     
  17. jimmyp7162

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    Getting back to you're original question. Both are excellent weapons. The trigger of the 1911 will be better, due to the fact that the SR 40 is striker fired. However, the SR will be smaller and usually more comfortable to carry. I have a Sr 40c and love it and the the trigger is definitely acceptable. IF I had to use it on a hairy creature, I would want FMJ or hard cast lead bullets from buffalo bore. Shooting and testing the .40 cal, I would never feel under gunned. But that's my experience and two cents. Good luck to ya!
     
  18. jimmyp7162

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    Oh, and if you do go with the SR 40, consider the compact; it is more versatile since it comes with a standard and compact magazine.
     
  19. MTHunter

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    Yes I have shot a .357 and its not a round I can handle.
     
  20. phildenton

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    That sucks, but good decision on not trying to rely on a cartridge you have difficulty with. Anna, would a 9mm +p+ fmj with a heavier bullet maybe be good?