Fighting Robot/Weapon System (TALON/Sword like)

Discussion in 'DIY Projects' started by Tomt, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. Tomt

    Tomt New Member

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    Hell Guys,

    Introduction:
    I've seen the Talon Robot Series and I like them and the idea a lot.
    But there also some disadvantages of the system.
    One I think is the high price, at around 200k $. Which in my eyes declines
    the main advantage of a robot, which is being expendable compared to
    human soldiers. High price robot is still more expendable than a human
    of course. The technology on board is worth the money, but most
    applications don't need night vision at 1000m or other features.
    This why I got the idea of making an own platform a lot cheaper
    at around 10K $ which I would also consider more effective.

    I wanna a show you my basic ideas. And want to discuss about the idea
    with you.

    Photo Talon:
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    Basic Ideas:

    Chassis:
    Tracked, at roughly the same dimensions of the Talon Swords,
    but I think a tracked one with a good suspension wourld do fine.
    Material should be metal or a poly which do not crack or brake if
    shot (multiple). Should be able to still apss thorugh doors.

    Mobility:
    I think speed is an important factor on many ways. Finding cover, chasing,
    etc. So I find 15km/h is the minimum, nice would be 20-25, perfect
    would be 30+. Range should be configurable with adding battery packs,
    some need not a large range (law enforcement) some do (military).
    So maybe varieying from 20km to 50-100 depending on configuration.
    It should be able to climb the large stairs common in large building,
    like public buildings. Older and smaller houses often got a type of stairs
    which I do not think it is possible to climb by such a vehicle without
    modification (CG is teh problem).

    Arnament:
    I favor an AR 15 with a 100rd or 150rd Mag because of its light weight
    and it is quite common. Others should be possible too, like LMGs and
    additional or instead breaching tools.

    Electronics:
    I favor a too camera layout, one for aiming on the gun, and one overview
    cam mounted a bit higher with teh ability to turn it 360 independently from
    the rest of the weapon. An microphone is also nice maybe multiple ones
    to track gun fire.

    Control:
    Normal PC components would do just fine, nothing too special
    and a simple control layout for easy and instictive controls.
    Maybe using sattelite transmission, so operators from far away
    can control them. Possible scenario: 10 positions to defende,
    standby robos on all positions if alarm the operator group
    can take control and fight. One group for 10 positions.

    Armour:
    As learned from panzer warfare, "mobility-firepower-armour"
    I would suggest armouring the lower chassis in NJ III(a) and in
    a heavier version NJ IV. Maybe also armour for the gun part.
    This will highly decease losses and damage to the vehicle.

    Additional Ideas/Upgrades:

    Deep Wading / Marine: Improved water Protection of all electronic parts,
    rust-free bearings and swimming antenna (water deflects radio signals a lot)
    for amphibous operations.

    Carrier/transporter:
    Special heavy duty to transport soldiers backpacks.

    Long-Range kit:
    Carrier vehicle with gasoline engine tranporting the fighting vehicle
    over long distances whiel its still fully fightable.



    So I am interested in your opinion about this idea, and also
    if there is a market for a small series.

    Sry for my english I am not a native english speaker.
     
  2. Wally89

    Wally89 New Member

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    I'm no expert in robotics or enginering but I would try & build a small robot first its more complicated then it looks & I'm sure that while the Swords my be slightly over priced there's a reason why & not just R&D cost over run.
     

  3. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    Ok, but does it have a bottle opener?
     
  4. Wally89

    Wally89 New Member

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    Germany tried to make tracked robots that could run up allied landing craft & detonate but the few that were used were slow & easily stopped with even a small pistol round & none succeeded there have been other attempts but the technology has only recently started to catch to the idea. I think the cost is high but the can be repaired & while useful in special situations they are limited & vurenable to EMP & ECM.
     
  5. Wally89

    Wally89 New Member

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    The cost will probably go down in 10-20 years (hopefully)
     
  6. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    No ****! I would love to read more about this. What is your source? I tell you, them Germans are sneaky bastards...oh wait.
     
  7. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    1. Ar10, which is chambered in .308. Grenade launcher
    2. 360 visual at all time with heat sensing and Newest Generation night vision technology.
    3. Smoke screen capability
    4. Titanium plating
    5 mobility with run flat tires.
    6. Sonic sound weapon modular for non lethal applications
    7. Surefire lighting systems
    8. Self destruct package to protect technology
    9. Microphone to communicate with those in the environment.
    10. A bottle opener:D

    Just a few ideas.
     
  8. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    $200,000 is too high? Have you priced Tomahawk cruise missiles (~$600,000 base model) or even plane oooold sidewinders (~$85,000)?
     
  9. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    18 inch subwoofers because we gangsta
    Soundtrack to include songs like bad to the bone and iron man during firefights. For psych ops, anything from the Spice Girls.
    Oh, a robotic finger that gives the bird while playing bird is the word(title?)
    A giant dildo to shove up that fat little ****ers *** from NK.
    A ***** slapping hand for the politicians from NYC, Cali and Col. etc
    Did I miss anything?
     
  10. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Windshield wipers. I'm sure you have seen water balloons. Now fill them with black paint.

    Tracked vehicles also have problems when they encounter grease or liquid soap.

    Or holes in the ground, floor, etc.

    How would one stand up to a 5 gal can of gasoline that has a dozen styrofoam coffee cups dissoved in it ? (sticky)
     
  11. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

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    I love the Idea of Robotics controlled a safe distance away by someone who gets to go home to his wife; afterall, the idea is to win battles not lose soldiers. $200K wont begin to take care of the rehab for a crunchy without legs, the suffering can never be compensated. Cheaper is good, clusters of less capable but deadly bots like ants can be tougher to fight off than one or two super mini's, especially in Urban Warfare. That will come over time by people like TomT who will take their ideas to the next level.


    The rules on who they can be used against are a different discussion altogether, our Military and their toys should not be turned against the Citizens...