Feds Seize 3-D Printed Gun Website

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  1. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    FYI! WTF! They can take defense distributed site, they can go after any site! :mad:

    http://www.infowars.com/april-fools-day-joke-feds-seize-3-d-printed-gun-website/

    According to a notice posted on the Defense Distributed website, Homeland Security Investigations and the Justice Department have taken the site down.

    “This domain name associated with the website DefenseDistributed.com or Defcad.org has been seized pursuant to an order issued by a U.S. District Court,” the home page of the website states. A federal grand jury has indicted several individuals associated with the website and charged them with violating the Arms Control Act, the Undetectable Firearms Act, and other crimes.

    Defense Distributed is on open source organization that designed the Wiki Weapon, a firearm that can be downloaded over the internet and printed with a 3-D printer. The project was co-founded by University of Texas law student Cody Wilson “and a group of like-minded friends with strong libertarian leanings – a mix of Ron Paul fans, hunting enthusiasts, and tech-savvy revolutionaries who see the availability of a “printable gun” as potentially upending power structures across the globe,” PCMag.com reported last August.

    In October, Wilson and Defense Distributed launched the “Wiki Weapon Project,” an effort to raise $20,000 through crowd-funding to design and release blueprints for an open source firearm. They planned to buy or rent a $10,000 Stratasys 3-D printer. 3-D printers extrude melted plastic objects from CAD designs. Defense Distributed planned to eventually use a less expensive and more widely distributed RepRap printer to print firearms.

    In September, Stratasys threatened legal action and demanded the return of the 3-D printer it leased to Wilson. The company said Wilson and Defense Distributed were using the printer for “illegal purposes.” Following the incident, Wilson was questioned by the ATF.

    Wilson talked with Alex Jones in-studio about the printable gun project on two separate occasions – on January 15 and March 20 of this year.

    Website have the seized pursuant to an order by a U.S. District Court

    http://defensedistributed.com/
     
  2. Gizord1

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    They didn't do anything illegal!

    Stupid ATF shut em down.
     

  3. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Someone was saying it was an Aprils Fools Day prank; but, I will wait until 2 April.

    This site is up and running: http://www.defcad.com/

    The following is a dead link on that site: Access 3D printable firearms. And more section.

    I highly doubt this is a prank. This is not the country we once knew!
     
  4. c3shooter

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    And today's date is.......................:rolleyes:
     
  5. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I know, the one give away is the DHS seizure logo is centered! I checked other sites that were seized and the logo is not centered.

    Let's see 2 April!
     
  6. Tackleberry1

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    so...

    has anyone downloaded these blue prints? And why aren't they posted everywhere?

    Tack
     
  7. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    If this is not a joke, I will do everything I can to find the CAD files and repost them for all the world to see.

    Whether the government wants this information controlled or not, that's not gonna happen.

    I was actually on their website last night and I'm still kicking myself (I should probably receive a good beating for the lapse in judgement) for not downloading the CAD files. I already have CAD files for regular AR-15 receivers and didn't see the necessity for a printable plastic receiver. If having this information upsets the government, then we need to make sure everyone has it. I saw the site awhile back and just didn't think much of it because it's not illegal.

    On that note, if it is not possible to repost the files, we need to start working on a substitute.

    Freedom of speech and information is one of the hallmarks of democracy and personal liberty and this administration has done more than Bush ever thought about doing to attempt to deprive us of our liberties.
     
  8. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    So... that was a lot easier than I thought... but I want to make sure the mods are square with posting the files here first. If not, can we post links? If posting of links is not permissible, can we explain where to go to get the information?
     
  9. kbd512

    kbd512 Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm trying to get my paws on the v4.0 mega pack, though, as that was the last posted file by Defense Distributed. I have v3.7 and probably v3.9. I just can't believe I didn't download last night, WTF was I thinking!?
     
  10. John_Deer

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    You can store the files in shell accounts. Geezz I am kind of dumb about these newfangled computers and I can think of a hundred ways to distribute the files.
     
  11. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Folks it is 11:38 p.m. Mountain Time and the site is up.

    Very good prank!

    http://defcad.org/
     
  12. nitestalker

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    Yes it has been up since noon Mtn. time any way. I wish I understood all this 3-D printing and firearms fabrication? Can some one spell this out so it makes sense to us not so savvy gun guys.:)
     
  13. DFlynt

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    This was posted in their forums about their April Fool's prank, hilarious.

    I think that collateral damage caused by this prank should have been considered before it was pulled.

    I got up innocently enough, put on a fresh tinfoil hat (of course) and logged on though my downstairs neighbors WIFI.

    Upon seeing the shocking "SEIZED" notice I went into immediate tactical mode.

    I took my laptop outside and ran it over with my moped several times before dousing it with charcoal starter and setting it ablaze in the neighbors trashcan.

    I then ran into the house and grabbed all of my old gun periodicals and personal notes as well as several cartons of "research material" (that may or may not have contained mostly midget porn) and in 3 loads added it to the burning trashcan.

    I realized my fishtank gave my three goldfish (Lee, Harvey, and Oswald) a perfect view of the screen and based on my readings on conspiracy forums realized that DARPA could extract visual information from my pets. I gently placed them in a water glass full of whiskey and toothpaste (a trick I learned from coast to coast) to wipe their memory before fitting them with tiny tinfoil hats and flushing them to freedom.

    Hearing sirens outside I donned a smoking jacket and strolled outside. In my best fake Belgian accent I casually hinted that the neighbor whose trashcan fire they were responding to was frequently heard to praise al qaeda. When the fire was out I noticed to my shock that the laptop was barely melted I told the fireman that the neighbor had dropped a pipe bomb in that trashcan the day before. They told me to go inside and backed off while calling the bomb squad.

    I used the next few minutes to call my local police, the FBI, CIA, DHS, and the North Korean embassy to offer to turn states evidence in return for immunity for anything related to DEFCAD and any incidental violations of midget abuse laws.

    Strangely enough they all declined my offer outright, with the exception of the North Koreans who asked if I was famous before hanging up and the local police who said they would offer me complete immunity if I would "lose their phone number"

    As I was wrapping up my phone calls I heard a window shaking "BOOM" indicating that the bomb squad had done their job.

    So then I donned a second tinfoil hat and just settled down with a 2 liter bottle of orangs soda to await the DHS raid I knew was coming.

    Now that I have learned it was all a prank I have spent the day calling my local police, the FBI, CIA, DHS, and the North Korean embassy to explain that it was all a joke and that I've never even heard of DEFCAD or even the internet for that matter. Mostly they seemed inclined to drop it, North Korea offered me a job as a General, my local police just blocked my calls

    But worst of all...

    Now my goldfish can't remember how to swim home.
     
  14. MattShlock

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    Nitstalker, look on youtube -- there is a speeded-up video of a 3-D printer making what I THINK was an AR lower layer by layer out of melted-on thermoplastic. Takes a few minutes but it says it all...
     
  15. molonlabexx

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    It was an april fools day hoax. The site is back up.
     
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  17. kbd512

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    All in good fun. Cory is a self-described crypto-anarchist.

    I noticed that "entities" was misspelled, but I figured they were saving money by not purchasing the spell-check feature for government agencies not involved in winning spelling bees.

    It wouldn't be so funny if the Feds actually shut it down. I don't think it would matter much, since the files were available on overseas servers, but information like this needs to remain freely available. New technology like stereolithography will ultimately defeat attempts to "control" firearms access as decreasing prices enable more people to easily acquire the technology necessary to produce a receiver for their firearm. I think the AR will be the firearm of choice, as the forces imparted to AK receivers are too much for polymers to withstand without a major redesign of the receiver.

    The AR and AK magazines are far and away the most useful piece of firearms technology Cody has given the community. There are already enough firearms to last for several more lifetimes. Someone needs to come up with a way to cheaply manufacture plastic casings and STL isn't it.

    I hadn't downloaded the Mega Pack in quite some time and worked for about an hour to find an overseas server with the data on it.

    Good one, Cody.
     
  18. Gizord1

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    Went on it last night, and downloaded all of their stuff, except the .22 handgun. Pretty neat stuff. They even have an AR grip and a 3 shell carrier. Now I just need a 3D printer.
     
  19. MisterMcCool

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    Did anybody hear Glenn Beck today? They were talking about 3D printed guns and a guy said you can manufacture machine guns for your own personal use and it's totally legal. I don't think that is true.
     
  20. Gizord1

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    It is.
    It's iffy, but yes (depending on state laws) you can manufacture a firearm for your own use, even machine guns. BUT you cannot sell/transfer it, and you have to make it almost entirely yourself. No commercial parts.
     
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