Federal JHP for .40 S&W

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by feedsasquatch, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. feedsasquatch

    feedsasquatch New Member

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    I was wondering how many different types of JHP's Federal made. I got a box for my Glock 23 today from my local gunshop that says "Federal Tactical." It's 180gr, .40 S&W, "Tactical" JHP (LE40T1 on the side). The box is grey, and doesn't say "HST" anywhere on it, so I'm assuming that they're not HST's, but I don't know.

    Can someone help the noob? Thanks!

    Also, how will this round compare to Remington Golden Saber's 165gr which I also have a box of?
     
  2. feedsasquatch

    feedsasquatch New Member

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    So does anyone here know anything about .40 S&W Federal Tactical JHP (LE40T1)?
     

  3. LtpLegend

    LtpLegend New Member

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    I'm afraid the only help I can offer and you might well know is the higher the grain the more punching power you have but not necessarily stopping power.

    So for instance

    Hunting: You don't want a grain too high too where it will fully penetrates your target. Its easier for a Deer for example to get away when the shot passes through as opposed to staying in.

    Home Defense: If the Grain is too high it will blow right out the other side. This means your bullet won't have as much stopping power unless its a hollow point. The lower grain shot will hit and open up inside the target doing more damage making it deadlier! Also it could pass through the perp and into a loved one or a missed shot can pass through a wall into a bedroom.

    Stay away from FMJ too unless your trying to shoot through car doors or the like.



    .40 S&W:
    Barnes XPB 140 & 155 gr JHP (copper bullet)
    Speer Gold Dot 155 gr JHP
    Federal Tactical 165 gr JHP (LE40T3)
    Winchester Ranger-T 165 gr JHP (RA40TA)
    Winchester Partition Gold 165 gr JHP (RA401P)
    Federal HST 180 gr JHP (P40HST1)
    Federal Tactical 180 gr JHP (LE40T1)
    Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB)
    Speer Gold Dot 180 gr JHP
    Winchester Ranger-T 180 gr JHP (RA40T)
    Winchester 180 gr bonded JHP (Q4355)
     
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  4. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I will respectfully disagree with much of this. I do not think an exit wound is necessarily a bad thing. As long as the bullet has expanded properly and expended most of its energy in the target, an exit wound doubles the bleeding and trauma. If the bullet expands and stays inside the target, how do you know it penetrated sufficiently to pierce one or more vital organs? Enerygy transfer is good when you have 1000 ft/lbs or more to transfer. Very few handguns have that much energy to transfer. Handguns do not make good manstoppers. They do kill, but they do not immediately incapacitate reliably. The effects will take some time to overcome the target. .5 seconds if great. 10 seconds is not good. Determined individuals have survived for several minutes after receiving "lethal" hits. Those individuals are OK with dying, they just want company for the ride to the morgue.

    I do not carry a handgun because I am expecting trouble. I carry a handgun because I am not expecting trouble, if I am expecting trouble I will carry my rifle. My handgun will (hopefully) give me the opportunity to get to my rifle.
     
  5. SIGe-nox

    SIGe-nox New Member

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    Go with the golden sabres or the gold dot hollows. Great man stoppers and excellent feedability. Your gun will love you if you feed them these.
     
  6. feedsasquatch

    feedsasquatch New Member

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    I have both Federal Tactical 180gr and Remington Golden Saber's 165gr right now. I was just curious which one had more "stopping power" than the other.
     
  7. SIGe-nox

    SIGe-nox New Member

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    in the 180 Grn, try the SXT's, and the golden sabres are always a good round. You cant really go too wrong these days with all the modern designs of Hp's. In my .40, i carry the Sabres and sometimes the Gold dots. I mostly use the gold dots for my .357 SIG but i have heard that they do wonderful things ballistically for the .40 also.
     
  8. bs369

    bs369 New Member

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    Federal JHP

    Go to Federal's web page and click on "contact us" or something similar. Give them the stock number and they will give all the info you need.
     
  9. LtpLegend

    LtpLegend New Member

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    Hitting organs aside or a leg or a head you have more stopping power if the bullet comes to a full stop in the body.

    Its like anything in physics the faster you come to a stop the more physical power there is.

    I'll tell you what though in hunting especially Deer they get away alot more if your round goes straight through them as apposed to being lodged in them.

    Unless you hit someone with a 50 cal lol then its just a big hole and doesn't relate.


    and Robocop I agree with you handgun conclusion I would not want to plink 9mm at a doped up well anyone but especially 2-300lb man. That's why many people switched to the .45 for the stopping power especially the .45 rounds with shot in them.
     
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  10. feedsasquatch

    feedsasquatch New Member

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    Good call. I think I'll do that.
     
  11. m72law

    m72law New Member

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    i know im a little late here...but i thought the higher the grain (weight of bullet) was better at transfering energy and less likely to pass right threw?..am i wrong about this?:confused:
     
  12. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    OMG!!!???WTF???:confused:
     
  13. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    So, if say it comes to a complete stop on the surface or just under the skin the better? :D

    Nah, you want penetration and expansion imo. Stopping inside adds nothing to the lethality of the round if it did its job right.
     
  14. cpttango30

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    You want a bullet that expands to the largest frontal diameter. The bullet that has the highest weight and highest velocity. If the bullet expands to its maximum while going the fastest threw the target. If the bullet comes to a stop in the target it may not have caused enough damage. If a bullet travels threw the target leaving a wound channel you know it has expended most of its energy. That would cause a better wound channel.

    There are lot of things that go into a bullet killing something.

    If a bullet stops 1/2 way threw the target it didn't have a velocity as high as a bullet that went 3/4 of the way threw.

    Also there is no such thing as punching power except in boxing and MMA.
     
  15. UnderFire

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    My take on caliber debate is this: it's all about shot placement. The only way to disable someone really really quickly is with a shot to the heart or central nervous system. A hit anywhere else doesn't guarantee that the person is going down. Despite what you see in movies, any handgun bullet is going to do very little damage as compared to a shotgun or rifle. Any good defensive round (.380 & up IMO) is going to be able to drop someone with a well-placed shot. Another big factor (IMO more important than caliber) is bullet design.