Federal Guard Dog ammo

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by jimmyp7162, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. jimmyp7162

    jimmyp7162 New Member

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    Anyone have hands on experience with this?
     
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  2. danolator

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    Nope, but I have read a lot about it and plan on using it in my LC9. Always have been concerned about HP cycling issues in subcompact guns. This ammo solves the problem. Not going to pay huge online markups to get it though. HydraShok will do just fine until then.
     

  3. DrFootball

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    JimmyP see my answer to you in the other thread.(sry I don't have any of the 45's but i'll ask my guys who shoot .45 and see what they say)

    Dan, I have an LC9 also(see my Review) and I have my concerns about ANY HP or +P ammo in the LC9 considering the manual's warnings. That being said I have put a Little (less then 15 rds. out of about 1100 rds. since buying theLC9 last spring) through mine with only 1 jam(FTE) and that was the 1st time out with it. Last trip I did put some std. velocity JHP hand loads(3 Mags-21 Rds.) with no hang ups...so i keep two of my 7 Mags for it loaded with them...I can ask my friend for his Load dada if you like? I have 5 Std. 7 rd Mags, 3 with Finger Ext. and 2 flush, and finally got 2 of the new 9 Rd. ext mags from Ruger Last week...(shopruger.com) they still might be filling back orders....

    Next range trip I will be doing a short "Test" of Short-med. range Targets shot at with 5 different .9mm SD rounds, and for baseline, the Federal Std. Vel Hp's(124 Gr.Hi-Shok) and Remington Or Winchester 115 FMJ against the Federal HYDRA Shok, Hornady Critical Defense, Remington Golden Saber, Speer Gold Dot. & GDR Frangible Hp's for the basis of a future review here. All will Be shot from My Ruger SR9 & one of my "92's",...at 30 Ft.(10 Yds)....3 rds. each of each ammo through each gun,..2 3 shot groups each ammo,..36 rds. total. The SR9's Barrel is 4-1/8th Inches and the "92's" are std sized 4.9 inch Barrels. Looking for Group size and "Wound Channel" Size. We may continue the Test Outdoors with 3 more rds. each Ammo on Melons @15 yds. from a table & rest.
     
  4. cblowe13

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    I cycled two boxes of guard dog through my lc9. Not a problem at all. I think it actually likes them :) makes it awful snappy with those at least. But guard dog has ran the best out of any HP in mine.
     
  5. cblowe13

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    9 round mag? :) does it make a huge difference, because the 7 round fits my hand perfect would like two more rounds just don't want the bulkness.
     
  6. cblowe13

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    9 round mag? :) does it make a huge difference, because the 7 round fits my hand perfect with ext. Would like two more rounds just don't want the bulkness.
     
  7. hardluk1

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    Its a very good in home defense load as the bullets tends to not do well after hitting a wall. Not likely to got thru most of your house or neighbors apartment !!
     
  8. DrFootball

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    Depends on how big your hands are! I have stubby but Thick hands(one reason I also Play Gibson & not too much Fender because of Neck size of the Guitars,..but I did buy my first Fender last week, a Carbonita series II Tele with semi-hollow Body and 2 humbuckers!) so the 7 Rd w/Ext also fits me well,..Put an empty 9 rd. in and gripped it,..not much difference because the 9th rd. is actually partly in the rest when the mag. is fully loaded....if anything it makes for a smoother Draw from a pocket holster which is what I carry mostly( either in a "Man Purse" or my front right pants pocket)......
     
  9. DrFootball

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    If I can find some before next trip I will add it into the test!! I only have some in .357....
     
  10. cblowe13

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    Dr football do you have picture of magazine I can't find one?
     
  11. DrFootball

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    next time I shoot "Gun" pics I will put all three mags(the 7rd flush fit, the 7 rd. w/finger ext, and the 9rd.)
     
  12. zeke4351

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    Go to YouTube and watch the test video by tnoutdoors9. I would not waste my money on the stuff. Go with the Federal HST.
     
  13. danolator

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    Do you have the exact link? Can't seem to find it.
     
  14. zeke4351

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    Go to YouTube and search tnoutdoors9 channel or you can use Google.
     
  15. danolator

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    I finally got around to watching that video. Seems to me the ammo did exactly what it is designed to do. I intend to use it in my .45 night stand gun. Over penetration is a concern of mine inside my home. As far as a carry weapon, maybe not the best thing unless you live in one of those "no hollow" states. And when was the last time you saw someone wearing 4 layers of denim layered loosely over critical mass?
     
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  16. JW357

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    You may be right about the denim thing, but his tests are consistent and thorough. Also, people may not wear four layers of denim, but they will wear jackets and the like.
     
  17. JW357

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    [ame]http://youtu.be/WA7f69skz9g[/ame]
     
  18. JimRau

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    Good info. Thanks, I will stick with my Winchester +p+ 127 gr JHP !:D
     
  19. DrFootball

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    I'm working up the specs for a "real World" accuracy test of SD ammo across 9/40/& 45 platforms. HAPPY to say TEKGREG will be helping me with this project. So far: we have 4" & 5" guns,...targets at 21 & 30 ft.(7 & 10 Yds) I personally will use my SR9(4") and one of my "92's". My Taurus is actually an Ext. Match Comp. Tube(5.2") so I might just stick with one of the Berettas. I was sad to learn that the PX 4 Storm is only a 4" or shorter in 9. The 4.6" is the "special Duty" model which is 45 only. If anyone else is interested in "pitching in" I'd be glad to have the help esp. since i don't own a .40...We'd also include 357SIG...but don't have one of those either...
     
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