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Hey guys I ordered some of that Russian surplus .223 ammo from sportsmansguide (green box with brown bear on side). I ordered 260 rounds but only brought 40 to the range with me just do to some testing. Well I loaded up the first mag and out of 30 rounds I had 8 fail to fires. I collected them and noticed that all of the primers were hit. Just no bang. I really don't want to shoot the rest of the batch mowing there could be more like this. Should I complain to sportsmansguide or to the ammo company themselves? Not looking to start a war, just would like some kind of compensation if this continues to happen. You guys have any experience with this? Thanks!
 

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Chainfire said:
Of course any batch of ammo could be bad. The Russians are pretty good at making the stuff, I am betting it is a rifle problem. This theory can be easily tested......go buy a box of American made stuff; that will tell you whether it is gun or ammo.

Owning a rifle and not knowing what a hang fire is indicates a lack of knowledge that should be addressed. Not knowing basid stuff like that can get you or someone else killed. The NRA offers classes in rifle shooting. Look one up in your area.
Thanks for your concern
 

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I will definitely get the gun checked and try some different ammo. And of course I had the knowledge to wait before ejecting the cartridge. Excuse me i just didn't know the terminology was "hang fire".
 

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Tackleberry1 said:
Good to hear that and don't feel bad...that why were here!

I'll admit that at my first RSO training class I had to raise my hand because I'd never heard the term "squib" round. The Army always called it a "pop no kick" which meant STOP shooting because you just touched off a "primed only" cartridge that contained no gun powder and most likely have your last round lodged in your barrel! :eek:

We are all continuing to learn and teach regardless of how long we've been doing this.

Chains suggestion to test out some American ammo is a good one. When Trouble shooting any semi auto problems it's always good to start with the ammo, then the magazine, then the firearm because ammo and mags contribute to "most" issues.

Tack
Good info. I had a problem with my Ruger MKII jamming on the 6th round EVERY time. Changed mags and problem solved!
 

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robocop10mm said:
You can shoot (or attempt to shoot) what you like, but I would not put any cheap azz Russian steel cased ammo through my 5.56 rifles. Like running 87 octane in a Corvette. It might work, but...
It Probably wasn't a wise choice.
 

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HockaLouis said:
Malan, probably wasn't a poor choice either... Some Russian ammo/plants are better than others but none of it is the worst in the world. Well, maybe some Wolf...

I tend to agree it is something other than the ammo as well. Strip a bit and clean well. Deluges of spray (watch your eyes!) and modern pipe-cleaners are your friend as well as teflon lube!
I heard these rifles can be temperamental. I haven't done a real thorough cleaning lately. That will be next.
 
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