Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by G66enigma, May 26, 2020.

  1. Mercator

    Mercator Well-Known Member

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    It is absolutely not
    That’s putting the cart ahead of the horse. The US got extensively involved because the South Vietnamese were failing. In the end they lost the war, not the US. The US cut the losses and walked away.
     
  2. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Extremists, right or left, are a danger to the Republic. There is an area, near the center of the scale, where Representational Democracies thrive. Thankfully, it is that center portion of the population that keeps extremist from gaining too much power. Our society is the safest when the pendulum swings in a small arc around that center.
     

  3. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You nailed it.:) But what has happened is the Democrat party of my parents has evolved into a VERY EVIL and corrupt party. I remember a time when both parties would 'reach across the isle' for the good of the country, BUT NO MORE.:( The DEMONcrates have become the 'socialist democratic' party of the 1930's in Germany, YOU DON'T DARE CRITICIZE OR DIFFER FROM THE LEADERSHIP OR YOU WILL BE PUNISHED.:mad: I am and always will be an unaffiliated voter, BOTH parties are corrupt. BUT in recent times I have watched the DEMONcrate party turn against EVERYTHING this country stands for, the entire DEMONcrate party is made up of EXTREMISTS.:(
     
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  4. Gatoragn

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    https://www.foxnews.com/us/hundreds-of-oregon-protesters-delay-ice-agents-detaining-2-men-for-hours

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  5. ellis36

    ellis36 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We have so many Federal policing agencies I guess ICE doesn't make any difference. Hell, we apparently have Federal police who are ashamed to show who they are working for; no identifying marks, unmarked vans.

    I thought that Conservatives were the ones who wanted smaller government....Do your remember the "Jackbooted Thugs" that the Conservatives were so down on a few years ago? What happened with that? Now ICE, Homeland Security Police, and who knows how many others are ding police work and Conservatives are all happy with it. My how times change..
     
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  7. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We love to see democrats in handcuffs.
     
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  8. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    When the police are ordered to stand down and let crap burn for two months, someone has to do it.

    If you were president, what would you do to handle Portland, for example?
     
  9. Mercator

    Mercator Well-Known Member

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    Do you really want to know?
     
  10. jigs-n-fixture

    jigs-n-fixture Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    And the time of your post is part of the problem. Your post coupled with the internet, removes any possibility of the republicans leaning across the isle.

    And both parties are “VERY EVIL and corrupt”, busy selling out the voters to satisfy the wants and needs of the big donors (read that as the rich). To stay in power, they have developed a lunatic fringe on the extremes of both parties who are the majority of primary voters.

    Then the internet popped up and they can’t ever hide the fact that they have reached across the isle to work with the “enemy”. So, now they can’t, and we have a big, corrupt mess.
     
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  11. bluez

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    1) I respectfully submit that the entire spectrum has moved so much to the left that someone who was (properly) considered middle of the road 100 years ago would now be considered a "right wing extremist" by the left earmarked for canceling, purging or worse.
    We've seen this under the previous administration when DHS put out some of its "Hallmarks and indicators of political extremism " risk worksheet and essentially described middle american values as they still exist in many places in our country and were the norm in this country until very recently.


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    Politics is supposed to be about figuring out whats best for the country... but when you have a political movement that openly rejects core american values (small gov't, self reliance, individualism, freedom of speech+ association, to speak nothing of self defense) then what you have with the left in its various avatars, is a movement that is an implacable and incorrigible enemy of the Republic.
    A movement no less treasonous than a old-school armed coup trying to take over the TV stations (they dont need to do that, they already have them)

    There can be no compromise or collaboration with someone who is busy stabbing you in the eye.
    There can be no compromise or collaboration with the lefts agenda to destroy the country.

    ...when will people drop their normalcy bias and realize that we are already ina civil war.. if we fall asleep with "yuck, yuck the republicans are just as bad." slogans as a cop out (which is all they are)... then we will wake up in an american flavored Venezuela,Cuba, Soviet Union ( take your pick) one day and then it wll be too late.

    ....on the contrary we need to stand up and be counted incurring personal risk in the process ( stop hiding in your basements in your gun collection!) and actively roll back any such "transformation" as has already occurred, against whichever level of resistance the left throws at us.

    PS: On this note here are just the latest threats against anyone who is not a leftist from the "Biden campaign" staff... and yes they are not talking about Gulags just yet, but ideologically thats only a small step..
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...is-will-seek-vengeance-upon-baath-party-trump
     
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  12. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Folks like this lady eventually get elected to state governments, then Representatives.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/se...lice-chief-calls-trump-barr-support-revealing

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    I have spent the past 31 years working for capitalists, I get paid pretty good and am not a burden on my fellow citizen-taxpayers.
     
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  13. JimRau

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    I will have to disagree with you on this one. The GOP is corrupt like the DEMONcrats, BUT many of them, GOP, still stand up for our Constitution and conservative values, where as NONE OF THE DEMONcrates do!:(
     
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  14. JimRau

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    I am not happy with it!!! We NEED more LOCAL LEO's/funding, city, county, and state LE, not more FEDS! :( I have been in LE for 45+ years in three states at the local level, and in ALL of these experiences/agencies I have seen that:
    1. The Officers were WAY under paid.
    2. Under staffed.
    3. Under equipped.
    4. Under trained.
    In other words UNDER FUNDED!:mad: Now the DEMONcrates and racist BLM (modern version of the KKK with black skin) movement want to reduce OUR funds even more. This defies ALL LOGIC!!! :mad:
     
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  15. Mercator

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    You concede too much. The Republican Party is not corrupt like the Democrats. The Russia hoax, backing the antifa, the squad, Pelosi in color coded message garments. There is nothing even close in the GOP. We have a lot of good people in the Senate and the House. Many have argued with Trump, well that’s how he operates. Steve Scalise took a bullet for being a GOP leader. To equate one party with the other you have to be a total curmudgeon wth no sense of the future. We are Republicans.
     
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  16. bluez

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    it makes perfect sense to them.
    They want to expand Federal Police powers to supplant and eventually replace local police.
    The BLMs demand to "defund the police" which affects only local departments must be seen as in deliberate service of that goal..

    Why do the left want a federal centralized police force?

    Easy, they expect to own the presidency both houses and the judiciary at the same time, sometime in the next generation.

    The things they will then enact, to stay in power in perpetuity, will also destroy this country, and so will meet with resistance.

    Federal police forces are disconnected from the locals and can be expected to rationalize doing just about anything to the locals..for "breaking the law".
    Local Police not so much.

    If anything, Local Police and Sheriff's departments can be expected to be a hindrance rather than a help, to the lefts agenda, compared to Fed Police forces.

    This is the actual reason why the lefts foot soldiers, have been instructed to the "Defund the police" narrative.

    When you understand the enemy and look at the Operational Map from his eyes, a lot of stuff starts making sense.
     
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  17. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You missed the point, BOTH ARE CORRUPT, but your are correct, the type and degree of corruption are not the same!;)
     
  18. JimRau

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    I think an easier way to say it is, 'you have to tear it down before you can rebuild it the way you want it'!;)
     
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  19. Mercator

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    I don’t think most of them understand what defund means. Bet you they think it’s like totally not giving them money? And they will like have to subsist on whatever Trump gives them? They don’t understand that defund means liquidate, that nobody will serve for free. I hope so help me God that they get their wish and actually “defund”. And what happens to them next will be thoroughly enjoyable to this deplorable.
     
  20. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I absolutely want to know.