Everyone look at this befor you use another Copy Machine!!

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  1. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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  2. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    So no more sitting on the copiers and making copies.:eek: Guess it is too late.
     

  3. doctherock

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    I will be alerting the School District I work for right away on this issue. Dont need all my sensitive materials out there, the government has enough already.
     
  4. canebrake

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    What about all the Word Docs printed by blond secretaries?
     

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  5. NPD5946TSW

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    I almost feel dumb for not knowing that..... I SHOULD have.... wow. I'm gonna start making RANDOM copies on every copy machine I find now!
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    While NEWER copiers (and printers) DO have a hard drive, it has a limited capacity, and overwrites the oldest files as new material is added. With ANY electronic device with a computer chip- if you want to permanently erase everything that can be in there, I would introduce you to my good friend, Mr. Steel Smelting Furnace.
     
  7. Yunus

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    At roughly 250kb per page which is what the video showed, that would be about 4 pages per meg or about 4,000 per gig. That means a 10 gig hard drive would hold the last 40,000 pages copied.

    You would think at a minimum that some clever company like Xerox would come out with a copier that has built in functionality to erase the HD and market it as a more secure copier. Apparently right now they sell it for $500. Yeah 500 to erase a HD, that seems pretty stupid to me.
     
  8. dunerunner

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    I wonder about all those copiers leased by the Federal Government.....like DOD!! How much information has gone into the wrong hands because they have elected to get newer model copiers or gone with a competitive supplier.


    I know my agency used leased copiers. I have used copiers at many places to reproduce my drivers license, marriage license, information containing all of my financial information. Wonder who has that now!! :eek:
     
  9. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There are many of these out there then.
     

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  10. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Places like:

    Kinko's
    Public Library
    Fedex
    Local printers
    Government agencies
    Staples
    Office Depot

    I and wife were friends house for dinner last night and I just happen to start a conversation regarding this copier thread! It woke everyone up; also, when you scan a document onto your copier/scanner at home, you also have a digital file in the TEMP section as well!
     
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  11. Yunus

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    It's a DOD policy to remove all Hard Drives before sending equipment to DRMO (where old DOD equipment is sent to be sold/scrapped/reused). I have personally removed hundreds of hard drives from computers and laptops, even if it's a pain to get to and you have to break the laptop to get it open, we remove the hard drive. However copiers are handled by non-IT people and I'm guessing the regulation applies to them but they don't have a clue there is a hard drive in them.

    Once the hard drives are removed they are disposed of through acceptable DOD methods, we had an incinerator truck come by our office last time we did a large upgrade of computers and had lots of hard drives around.
     
  12. dunerunner

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    I know the FAA never removed any HD's from the leased copiers they had, because they didn't belong to the Agency.

    Copies of documents from Air Traffic Accident Investigations by the FSDO & NTSB, not to mention all the routine office stuff reproduced by Airways Facilities and Air Traffic Control, Flight Service and FAA Security.

    SOP's, Access Codes, Records of Key codes, Watch schedules, you name it; it got duplicated on a leased copier!
     
  13. Yunus

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    Also in regards to DOD anything classified should only be copied on a designated machine. Once a machine has had classified materials on it, it is forever a classified machine. The destruction procedures for classified materials is much more stringent. This should mean that the worry of leaking classified documents is not increased, just personal information. However as with anything it doesn't matter how strict a regulation is, if the people doing the work don't follow them it doesn't matter.