every fifth kimber?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by Hot Sauce NARC, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. Hot Sauce NARC

    Hot Sauce NARC New Member

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    Hey guys been away for a while, work got busy(stupid meth heads) anyways a guy i work with is going to buy a kimber with his tax refund and now he has got me really wanting one......i have wanted one for a while. I did some reading on the interweb and most everyone agrees that Kimber 1911 .45's are a good weapon for carry and personal defense. I also read that people have experienced problems with new guns....from what i read it seemed that one out of every five or so guns had minor defects out of the box that had to be corrected with 3-4 trips to the gunsmith/factory and several thousand rounds to smooth out. I was curious to know if you guys experienced any such problems with yours

    Not to be cocky....but i had to requalify yesterday and ended up shooting a 489/500 with my glock 23 .40 :)
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Okay, again, Don't Believe Everything You Read on the Internetz!! It's Sirrius Bidness....:rolleyes:

    I have owned three Kimbers ( I bought their bargain basement Custom Target II, I bought their .22lr 1911 model and I bought their Custom Pro Shop Raptor II ), bought between the years of 2003 and 2007. In that same time, two co workers also bought Kimbers, one of whom bought the same bottom rung Custom Target II and the other bought The Kimber Desert Warrior ( which is kind of an expensive pistol ). In that same time, the owner of the gunshop that I work at, Brett Evans, bought a Kimber Eclipse II ( though it was about a year old and from a customer who needed the cash ).

    Of those pistols, I am the only one who sold one of my pistols, the Pro Raptor II TO the guy who bought the Desert Warrior. ;)

    Now, in all the time I have owned my Kimbers, I have NEVER heard of such a ridiculous claim that one in five is bad and needs custom work.

    In all the time that I have worked in the shop, which has been part time for about 5 years now, we haven't taken any Kimbers in for "custom repair" and the only work we have done are trigger jobs, sight change outs and we installed one aftermarket tactical rail on a guys Kimber.

    Now, we are NOT a 1911 shop anymore. Brett doesn't do 1911 work unless it's for rifle customers who have been good customers. But of the people we deal with, several of them have the money to own Kimbers, and probably do.

    Having said that - I would be HIGHLY SUPRISED if there was anything other than jealous haters posting about Kimber and all their "problems".

    Kimber, for my money, is turning out the best built, full featured weapon for the price.

    Although feel free to solicit some opinions from other folks and see what they think. But ask them about if they own one of their weapons, or if they are merely a hater....

    JD
     

  3. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Kimber are tight like a 30 year old virgin. You have to work them in then they run so smooth it is like a greased pig on ice at a county fair.
     
  4. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    Wow, Tango. Many questions there. :)

    Anyhoo, Kimbers suck. Don't buy one. The fewer people that buy one, maybe the price comes down. Once that happens, I can justify gettin one of my own. :D
     
  5. BILLYBOB44

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    +2 with you Skull-I can't fathom the thought of a 30yr old Virgin? Greased pigs don't appeal either, unless their in my smoker. Trying to wear out my Govt, Model so I can justify a Kimber!:D
     
  6. Hot Sauce NARC

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    i was hoping that is what you would say JD. I have also heard that you will save alot of time and heart ache if you trash the stock mags and just go with wilson combat.
     
  7. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    You know, I have read that too, but I never had a problem with any of the stock Kimber mags except for the one that came with my .22. It's a plastic POS and I got an aftermarket one with a better spring and it feeds much better.

    All the stock mags I got with my Kimbers ran just fine for my .45's. Never had an issue. matt g had a Kimber and he ran stock mags without a problem as well.

    Having said that, the Wilson 47D's are a great magazine that will definitely treat you right. The problem is they are about $30 a piece. :eek:

    I really like the Kimbers and feel they are a great gun. I happen to come into some cash ( minor "settlement" ) about the time I discovered the Nighthawks which was the only reason I "upgraded".

    One of my Kimbers is being rebuilt in the .460 Rowland build off with canebreak. Looking at the specs from the manufacturer, Kimbers are one of the few guns they will build the kit for because of the high pressure of the cartridge....

    Which model are you looking at?

    JD
     
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  8. Hot Sauce NARC

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    the custom eclipse in .45..........it is a sexy weapon, but i also like the tatical custom, and i have also considered a custon series Warrior for the addition of the light rail as i will use it on duty and sometimes light can be your best friend. If the warrior was the same price i think i would go with it, but i dont know how low my dealer will go.
     
  9. Dillinger

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    How does your department feel about using your own weapon? Any thoughts on if you have to use it and it gets tagged into evidence for the next year or so?

    Let me check out the sight and see if there are any advantages, one over the other...

    also, send this guy an e-mail:

    george@migunslingers.com

    George, I believe, is a Master Dealer and has the best prices I have found on the internet when I have been in the market. His prices include overnight shipping to the FFL near you....

    JD
     
  10. Hot Sauce NARC

    Hot Sauce NARC New Member

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    im knda in a unique situation....i can carry anything from a .32 to a .50 as long as i qualify with it lol. Ya i have thought it being evidence and that would suck but im ok with that as long as i get it back sometime.
     
  11. Dillinger

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    I would stick with the Eclipse, which I have shot and is a great pistol, or the Desert Warrior, which I have also shot and is a bit better pistol, IMO.

    The Warrior comes with KimPro finish, which is fantastic against normal wear and tear, plus the thing practically oils itself. Really slick.

    The other one, the Tactical Custom, is an Aluminum Frame gun and I am not a big fan of that in a .45 - but that is me talking.

    I think a 1911 should be a steel frame gun, that way if you run out of bullets, you can bash the bad guy's skull in with it. :D

    JD
     
  12. Hot Sauce NARC

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    i agree on the steel frame, and i think the gun i carry ought to have a finish that stands up to abuse a little better than the bare steel of the eclipse. its is a good looking gun, but i imagine the upkeep is slightly higher than the glock 23 i am used to (take it apart blow the lint out of it put it back together throw lead) In my current line of work i am plain clothes most of the time and carry semi concealed (serpa on my hip under a t-shirt) so lint and dust are actually a major issue lol
     
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    They say I'm cocky, and I say What?
    It aint braggin' m*****f***er if ya back it up
    Kid Rock
     
  14. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    They are a little more up keep, but I honestly don't think it is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. A little care and attention and it will treat you right.

    I think you can get the Kim Pro finish on any of their steel guns, so if you really like the Eclipse, I am sure they can work it out for you - just a question of time and money... LOL

    Post some pictures of what you end up with for us all to drool over. :p

    JD
     
  15. Hot Sauce NARC

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    will do: say i were to get the desert warrior with the light rail, or any 1911 with a rail will those fit in the standard 1911 holster, because im pretty sure blackhawk dose not make a rail specific holster, or a light bearing 1911 serpa
     
  16. Dillinger

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    I do think they make ones for the 1911, but I think you have to find last year, or maybe a year before that model.

    Brett has one, because he has a rail on one of his 1911's and I am pretty sure that is a drop down thigh rig though. I don't think they make a belt model for the 1911 that includes a tactical rail option though.

    I am not a fan of the rail, so I never actually looked.

    You want leather? Or kydex/plastic?
     
  17. Hot Sauce NARC

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    well whatever a blackhawk serpa is mad out of. Ive gotten pretty used to them, and i really like the draw from a serpa, but i can adapt to somthing else like leather for everyday and maybe a thigh rig for tatical situations.
     
  18. Bigcat_hunter

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    Kimber had some problems when they first switched to the external extractors. I think the problem was with the sub-compact models and has since been resolved. I bought a full size Eclipse during that time frame and had never had a problem. The more you shoot a Kimber the better they become. I love mine.
     
  19. M14sRock

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    I'm willing to give the dissenting vote. My good friend ordered a full size stainless Kimber from their custom shop.

    It was not inexpensive.

    When it arrived it looked like the "melt" job had been done by drunk monkeys with rasps. The front of the slide on one side was ground down almost all the way through. The fit of the slide to the frame was terrible, and the back of the slide was about 1mm over the back of the frame on the left side, and about 1mm short of the back for the frame on the right side.

    The rear sight had a "slant" to it that could only be described as "WTF?" The dovetail was cut at an angle. Very slight, but noticeable.

    The cosmetics were awful.

    Mechanically, the trigger can only be described as "two stage". It would have been a great trigger on an M1 Garand, but was lousy for a 1911.

    He decided to go with a short trigger, so we dug through my parts bin and changed out his trigger. We tried 3 short triggers and none would work. They all fit just fine, but would not drop the hammer. The long trigger went back in, and the gun was sold. (And replaced with a Springfield TRP Operator)

    This pistol may have been the aberration from Kimber, but it was crap. When he called Kimber, they told him that if the pistol was mechanically sound that he could not get it replaced or (cosmetically) repaired. Essentially, if it went "bang" he was S.O.L.

    When Kimber introduced their 1911's at SHOT back in the early 90's, I loved them. They exhibited all of the features that anyone could ever want on a carry gun. The ones they are turning out now do not match the early ones in any way.
     
  20. dragunovsks

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    I don't know if I could keep my cool after shelling out all the money required to buy a Kimber and find out it doesn't fire everythime. I might blow my top.:mad: