English: The official American Language? What do you think?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by live2offroad, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. live2offroad

    live2offroad New Member

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    I caught Lou Dobbs on CNN this evening, and he was discussing the topic of making English the "official" national language. He quoted a poll which puts this idea at about a 90 percent approval nationally and his own poll (run during the show) the idea came in at 94% in favor.


    I have my own feelings, but I'd like to know what you all think. If it's the will of the people, shouldn't English be the National language?

    Yes or No? (or maybe?)

    -Peter
     
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  2. RL357Mag

    RL357Mag New Member

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    Yes...although since this debate first surfaced in the 1970's my Spanish has improved...
     

  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

    Theodore Roosevelt 1919

    I am going to vote for hell yes English should be our national language...

    JD
     
  4. live2offroad

    live2offroad New Member

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    Damn fine quote!

    -Peter
     
  5. ScottG

    ScottG New Member

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    English should be our national language in government. English only for all official business. That said, there's nothing wrong with learning another language, or keeping another language alive in your home.

    I wouldn't want people to think we hate the use of other than English. It mostly happened that way earlier in our history and I think we lost the ability to use more than one. My maternal grandmother came here speaking German a century ago, but by the time I came around, she didn't know a word of it. My little girl's mother speaks Tagalog, but for personal reasons, she'll never teach our girl. I think she'll lose something by not knowing it, but then again, it will keep her out of a language ghetto as it were, because all the Tagalog speakers I know generally spend time speaking among themselves and others around who don't know it aren't part of the group.

    Too many of America's enemies here will use "English only" sentiment as a cudgel against us. Racist, bigot, and other epithets will - and already are - used about those of us who want to maintain the integrity of American culture. American culture is based on language and rule of law, not skin color, not racial group, not religion. By keeping those non English speakers in their own language ghetto, the opponents of English only perpetuate their power structure in the communities where English isn't spoken. Talk about racism and bigotry. We know those who speak English have a better chance at succeeding in life, but of course, they wouldn't need the "services" of those who currently oppress them would they?
     
  6. Braeden

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    like that quote. but tell that to the immigration country i live in.... *shakes head* alot of the immigrants i see and talk to here act like there better than non-immigrants. Not to say all of them do. But alot..... so throw that question up to all canadians including immigrants and youll get no's. But i think its a good idea
     
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  7. bkt

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    We have family in Toronto and we visit them often, and it is clear to see that Canada is a salad bowl where the U.S. is (supposed to be) a melting pot. Multiculturalism versus a single culture. Personally, I prefer the latter.

    American English should be the official language (unless we want to learn to spell funny...colour, theatre, centre).

    For immigrants to do anything other than assimilate into their host country shows incredible hubris. If you love the old country, stay there. If you love the opportunities presented in your new country, assimilate.
     
  8. fapprez

    fapprez New Member

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    I thought it was!? If "We" decide to use a language OTHER than english for our national language, let's make it fun and pick one NOBODY knows, like Navajo or Zulu. That way we all have to learn a new language, not just the english speaking people.
     
  9. live2offroad

    live2offroad New Member

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    Nope it's just the accepted use language...

    I'm for the idea, I believe we are a Nation of many that try to stand together and that an accepted and unified use of language would make that easier..

    -Peter
     
  10. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    My favorite argument about being "Racist" for supporting English as the official language is:

    Hispanic is not a Race, it is an Ethnicity. Hispanics are generally white (there are some Black Hispanics ie some Panamanians, Dominicans, Haitians etc.). Sorry, my brown brothers, you are white like me, get over it.

    You may call me an Ethnist if you chose, but certainly not a Racist.

    English 1st, 2nd and always. English is the most common language in international business transactions. When the French sign a contract with an American company, it is in English (most of the time). Shen a German company signs a contract with a company in Mozambique, it is in English.

    There is no room in this country for a hyphenated American. Become an American or leave. I am not a Scottish-Welsh-Swedish-German-Blackfoot-American. I am an American.
     
  11. Doug1627

    Doug1627 New Member

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    I vote YES for English as the primary language.
     
  12. RL357Mag

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    If John Conyers gets his way, the national language just might be an African dialect, like Zulu or Swahili..
     
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  13. DFENS

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    American English, please. If I'm not mistaken, a law was passed back in the day (not sure when) stating that schoolhouses had to speak english only, not german (many towns were of largely-German stock and so they were speaking German).

    Wasn't it the Pilgrims that decided to move because the kids were speaking Dutch? I've seen (through pizza-delivery to ghettos and also running a checkout at WalMart) that the children of ESL (English as a Secondary Language) naturally pick up the language.

    I really don't see the US going bi-lingual as Canadia to the north is. It'll swing that way for a while, looking to do such as the rising spanish-speaking demographics are sought after commercially, but it'll go back to English-only as the bilingual population increases, as those speaking multiple languages will help teach English to those willing to learn. It'll be easier and cheaper to run English-Only and there'll be less need for multiple-language labeling. That's my guess, anyway.

    IMO, if you are going to emmigrate/immigrate, learn the friggin language. I'll not move to Italy without learning Italian (and french and german and.... *insert European dialect here) or Japan without learning Japanese.
     
  14. painted_klown

    painted_klown New Member

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    Why should I have to press 1 for English?


    Seriously, yes American English for the win!:p
     
  15. Chortdraw

    Chortdraw New Member

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    Since we don't really speak the real English as in England we should make American English the language to be spoken:D Yes, my vote is for English.
    Why should it be anything else. If you don't like it here you are free to leave with my blessings.:p
     
  16. Dillinger

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    Hell, I'll even chip in to get you someone from Labor Ready to help you pack. :D

    JD
     
  17. TnRebel

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    I couldn't of said it Better Myself

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  18. h&k bigdaddydieseldan

    h&k bigdaddydieseldan New Member

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    Absolutely positively 100% english should be our language !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D
     
  19. Landor

    Landor New Member

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    I would like to think most born and bread Americans want English as the primary. The problem is the government does not. The people have spoken, it is that just nobody is listening.
     
  20. dunerunner

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    My great, great, great grandparents were from Germany; farmers in the mid-west. They demanded their kids learn english and teach them to speak it as they wanted to be Americans. Not German Americans; Americans. I still selebrate my heritage but I am more proud of that decision made by my family 100 years ago to become American. It's English, learn it or leave!!