Eagle Arms carbine - shooter or collector?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by scott556, Oct 5, 2010.

  1. scott556

    scott556 New Member

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    I have an AR made by Eagle Arms in Cole Valley, IL. I bought it in the late 90's for $1300, test fired it once, cleaned it and put it in the safe. It appears to be very well built and has an old-school CAR look to it.

    A friend believes that it is worth at least what I paid for it, due to it being made by the original Eagle Arms, started by the same Mr Lewis of LMT. I think he's optimistic, but I'd like to get some input from others.

    Does anyone know anything about this rifle? I have other ARs, but this is my only carbine. If its a shooter, then I'll shoot it. If it is worth close what I paid for, then I would probably upgrade to a newer (flat-top) platform.

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  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I haven't a clue about value, but that's a handsome carbine. :cool:
     

  3. Squirrel_Slayer

    Squirrel_Slayer New Member

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    It certainly is a sharp looking rifle, but with the going rate on carbines now a days, I doubt that it is worth near what you paid for it. In my honest opinion, you should take it as you have a new rifle that has been hardly broken in, and take her out and get to shooting. You can add optics on top of the carry handle if that is the only reason that you would like to upgrade to a flat top.
     
  4. Quentin

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    Those old Eagle Arms ARs have a good reputation but I agree it's not likely to be a collector's item so you might as well shoot it. Very accurate I understand and at that time they were a premiere company. Today they're ArmaLite's economy line, though still very good.

    Amazing how ARs have actually come down in price over the last decade especially considering inflation. I guess the Clinton ban back then increased the price and demand though. Don't know what it would be worth today... as there are even better ARs for that money.
     
  5. Quentin

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    Just a thought - did you buy it new in the late '90s or could it actually be pre-ban? That would increase its value in ban states like CA, NY, etc. And could explain the price in the late '90s.

    The reason I ask, it seems to have a bayonet lug, flash hider and pistol grip which would be a lot of 'evil' features after 9/1994 and until 10/2004.
     
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  6. scott556

    scott556 New Member

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    Yes, it was purchased as a "pre-ban" rifle. I had no idea that pre-ban meant anything to anybody anymore.

    In my search to find more about the rifle, I've been told the following:

    Rifles were built by Eagle, then Armalite bought out Eagle. I few rifles got lost in inventory until they were later discovered and they realized they had valuable "pre-ban" items.

    Same person said that rifles were used in the movie the Postman. I personally find the movie part hard to believe, but when I saw the movie again I did notice that the CAR style rifle had the same distinctive flash hider. The Eagle's flash hider flares down to meet the barrel at a 45 degree angle were all other CARs (Bushmasters & Colts) do not, they are a 90 degree step.

    The person who sent the email could not provide any reference material, so take it with a grain a salt.
     
  7. Quentin

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    Since you're in Oregon it would be interesting to see what pre-ban ARs are going for in neighboring CA. You might be very pleased with what you could get for it and it would allow some fortunate soul there or in other ban states to own a rifle like the rest of us can buy now.

    And you could get a much nicer rifle for only $800-1000, maybe even the EA's big sister, ArmaLite! :D Anyway, you now know the gun is more valuable than we originally suspected.
     
  8. russ

    russ New Member

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    Honestly I think it's sexy and since it does have some uniqueness to it, I'd just keep it and shoot it. But I probably wouldn't shoot the crap out of it. But that's just me. [​IMG]
     
  9. scott556

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    Ok, I found out some really interesting info....

    In the late 90's, when Armalite discovered what they had, they sold them via "hidden" website only known about through word-of-mouth.

    Sounds far-fetched to say the least, right?

    Well I went to Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine, entered in armalite.com, and clicked on a archive from 1998 I noticed a missing page (the URLs when 1,2,3, etc with 8 missing).

    I manually entered in 8 and got...

    http://web.archive.org/web/19980113193555/www.armalite.com/page8.htm

    Freaking cool, right?!?
     
  10. Sniper03

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    Scott,

    The price you can get for it depends. Since the original Eagle Arms is not in business. As stated Armalite markets it's stripped lowers under the Eagle name. Of course if you would advertise and find a collector that needed a true Eagle for his collection then you may be in the bucks. Pre Ban does add some to it but it is certainly not a pre-ban Colt SP-1 or the like. As far as selling it just our on the market I would guess $850-$1000 would be tops since it is new and in the condition it is. If you want to sell it look into the collectors area we spoke about previously. My past boss worked for the true Eagle facility and also has a couple of them put back.
    Otherwise shoot and enjoy it. They are a nice quality rifle.
     
  11. kenl

    kenl New Member

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    as an aside, check out the tech notes
    http://web.archive.org/web/19980113193416/www.armalite.com/techshet.htm