Dry fire more important than actual practice!?!?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by NewGunz, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. NewGunz

    NewGunz New Member

    65
    0
    0
    In the book Tactical Pistol Marksmenship by Gabriel Suarez, Suarez has an entire section on dry firing where he mentions:

    AND

    To summarize, Suarez also mentions that dry firing will do a lot more for you than firing 10,000 rounds of real ammo. Lastly, he tells the story of a Rhodesian Defensive Force commander who had to resort to dry fire to train his troops due to extreme ammo shortage in the country at the time. Suarez goes on to say that this commander's troops trained solely by dry firing ended up firing better than soldiers who had fired thousands of real rounds conventionally.

    I think you get the point he's trying to make. My question is, do you agree? Is this something that is commonly known in the shooting community? It has me feeling slightly guilty of wanting to go to the range now but I've always thought live practice was good due to the actual sights and sounds.
     
  2. Ruzai

    Ruzai New Member

    546
    1
    0
    Dry firing takes the flinching out of the equation for beginner shooters and can refine trigger pull, grip, stance, and many other things that may need work and be overlooked while at the range.
    I dont really agree with the thought that the more you shoot the worse you get at it, thats just asinine to me. If that were the case Jerry Miculek and Rob Leatham wouldnt be able to hit the broad side of a barn :p
    I do agree with the dry firing, and its a safe way to improve and refine many skills, I spend about 3/4 of practice on dry fire and the other 1/4th on live fire due to ammo costs and opportunity to head to the range.
     

  3. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

    7,141
    0
    36
    I assume he means that practice only instills repetition. If you practice an improper skill, you only get repetitively worse.
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

    20,110
    19
    38
    no that conclusion is way off. dry fire is very important and very effective. but it is no replacement for live fire. thats why a lot of people look for 22lr conversions for their daily caary pieces or 22lr firearms that closely resemble what they use.
     
  5. fixxer

    fixxer New Member

    188
    0
    0
    I just finished the ebook version of this from Amazon a couple weeks ago too. I thought it was hokey and exaggerated in places but some of the scenarios did make sense. I'm glad I read the book and it did reinforce the importance of dry firing when not able to make it to the range and to practice the draw. I think there are parts and peices of almost every book that are good to take away from the reading. In the end, I'm not taking every statement that Suarez made at face value. Have you tried to find any sources that he quoted about this Rhodesian Defense Force?
     
  6. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

    2,096
    1
    0
    Dry firing is the cheapest and easiest way to repetitiously learn your trigger.

    Trigger work is easily 50% of the accuracy equation. Not to mention it will smooth a new trigger nicely.
     
  7. WDB

    WDB New Member

    3,977
    3
    0
    In short dry fire improves pistol control by muscle memory. The same conditions have to be allied as if firing live rounds. So if setting on your couch and snapping off 100 rounds won't be the same. IMO live fire is the only true way to fully understand your ability and that of the pistol you use/carry.
     
  8. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

    3,426
    0
    0
    Both serve their purpose. Can one make it threw gun ownership without dry fire practice? Sure. But most people will agree that dry fire practice is important, especially with a new-to-you gun and with new-to-gun owners.

    Dry fire practice has become something of a major focus for me recently as I simply have not the time or resources to go to the range every week like I should. Rather than sit at home wasting time doing something less constructive, I have taken to heart dry fire practice.

    The website, found here, Handgun Drills and Standards Page , is usually a very good read for those just getting into dry fire practice. At this moment the site seems to be under contruction...:eek:

    (Use snap-caps!)
     
  9. Ruzai

    Ruzai New Member

    546
    1
    0
    If I really had my say in the matter I'd do both live and dry 50/50 but unfortunately I no longer have a range in my backyard like most of the gun writers and people in the country tend to have.

    I've broken 2 sets of snap caps so far...both for the 38 special/357 mag, I think its because they were made of cheap plastic. My 45 Auto snap caps are metal and have survived superbly. I just hate trying to find them after you eject them across the room during a malfunction-clearing drill :rolleyes:
     
  10. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

    3,426
    0
    0
    Had a friend buy plastic Snap-Caps one time. It didn't take long for them to get broken. Because of that I will only buy A-Zoom. Great little buggers.
     
  11. BIGBEN

    BIGBEN New Member

    53
    0
    0
    You need both to be proficient.Live fire is good when taking longer shots and gauging accuracy,but up close,like indoors,dry fire practice is very important when speed as well as accuracy are needed.
     
  12. utf59

    utf59 New Member

    676
    0
    0
    Dry fire practice is efficient. You can do it anytime, without leaving the house, and you aren't using up ammunition.

    More than that, shooting, like many other endeavors, can be improved upon by practicing in parts before performing in total. Think of a quarterback throwing passes through a tire, a boxer working on the speed bag, a baseball player fielding grounders hit by a coach, or a tennis player practicing backhands using a serving machine. You can focus on a particular skill, one aspect of an overarching activity that involves a whole set of skills. And you can perform many repetitions in a short period of time. That's why practice sessions of sports seldom involve actually playing the game.

    You still have to practice the overall activity to put all the parts together, but now you have the benefit of far more repetitions of individual components than you would if you only relied on range practice.
     
  13. pmanton

    pmanton Member

    135
    6
    18
    I entered the Marine Corps in the 50s. Before we fired a single round we had a full week of "snapping in". Nothing but dry fire. Perhaps that is why the Corps has such excellent marksmanship.

    Paul
    Salome, AZ
     
  14. David26

    David26 New Member

    313
    0
    0
    So Yall r sayin that from now on when Iam up late at night pointing my pistols at the tv pretending to shoot the actors and my wife tells me to quit playing with my guns and put them up I can tell her I am not playin it's practice
     
  15. dallascj

    dallascj New Member

    93
    0
    0
    Dry fire also allows you to practice your draw and many defense tactics that you just can't do with a loaded weapon, and never at a range. I practice my trigger pull often by dry firing, and use it to break in new revolvers.