Driving through Illinois

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by JosephMD, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. JosephMD

    JosephMD New Member

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    My state has some seriously unconstitutional gun laws, but Illinois is worse. In this era of everyone flipping out about guns, what do I need to know if I'm driving through Illinois with my firearms?

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  2. collegekid20

    collegekid20 New Member

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    If I'm unsure about firearms laws or how a police officer may interpret them in a date I'm driving through I always call their state police and ask for clarification and advice. I've done it for both Florida and Georgia and reviewed timely and professional responses for both. I also write down who I'm talking to just in case. But that's just my opinion
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    What do you need to know?


    1. If you can, avoid it.

    2. If you cannot- Federal law, called Peaceable Journey. If gun is legal to possess both at your origin and at your destination-

    a. Unload, case it, place in trunk. Ammo separate, but also in trunk.
    b. Close trunk, drive. Do not stop in Illinoying except brief stop for food, fuel, potty. If you overnight it throws it into different legal perspective.
    c. Leave in trunk until you arrive at destination.

    If you do not have a trunk separate from passenger compartment, place unloaded gun in LOCKED hard sided case.


    You should be aware that it is legal for you to MAIL rifles and shotguns (unloaded) to yourself by US Mail, and you can SHIP a handgun to yourself by UPS (next day air, pricey). You do that by sending it to yourself IN CARE OF someone else. If I am headed to Big Sky Lodge in Montana, send to self C/O Big Sky Lodge. They should hold it unopened for you.
     
  4. 25-5

    25-5 New Member

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    For you travelers, Legal Heat, is a good app. It's a buck.
     
  5. JosephMD

    JosephMD New Member

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    All roads lead to Illinois :(

    Sounds good - confirming what I thought already. I don't plan on stopping in that state at all, the kids can take some pictures of Chicago from the moving car!

    It is tough to get to the north states without crossing Illinois the major east/west routes all pass through IL, I90, I80, I70, even the not so major I64. I'd have to go all the way down to I40 as far as interstates go to get around it, that is probably 3 days out of the way, each way :).
     
  6. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    If I were to stay in a hotel in Illinois, I would bring my guns into my room with me.
     
  7. bigjim

    bigjim New Member

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    Transporting your firearm in Illinois is easier than most people think. As of July 9th 2013 many rules have changed.

    Please review the Illinois State Police website to get answers to your questions.

    http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf

    Some area's of the State are friendlier than others and many communities have their own rules on firearms. Illinois is a large State and has many beautiful sites to visit so if you can avoid the City of Chicago and Cook County, please avoid then at all costs with a firearm.(they are only a very small part of the State). But transporting a firearm in Illinois should not be a problem for most people.

    Jim
     
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  8. 25-5

    25-5 New Member

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    Watch your speed.
    If stopped, keep your mouth shut. Unless asked.
    Keep your drivers license separate from any carry permit.
    Keep ammo and firearms apart, cased. Locked if no trunk.
    No loaded mags or speed loaders.
    If you stop for the night, it's your home. Take it to your room.
     
  9. gr8oldguy

    gr8oldguy New Member

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    Keep your gun unloaded and locked in a hard shell case. Have the ammunition locked in another case. Keep both cases in the trunk. If it's a semi, do not have rounds in the mag. Good luck
     
  10. mybigguns

    mybigguns New Member

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    Ammo and gun do not need to be in separate cases.
    Gun must be unloaded.
    The center console of a vehicle is a suitable carrying case.
     
  11. steadyshot

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    All of the above is very good advice.

    Make sure to watch your speed as well. The police, state and local target the interstate highways for drug runners.

    Cars with out of state plates that exceed the speed limit are more likely to get pull over and searched.
     
  12. 25-5

    25-5 New Member

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    Center console in IL is not acceptable. Trunk only. No trunk, then as far away as possible. Must be inaccessible.
    They are not nice here, especially Cook Co. and Chicago. Your rights are the last thing considered. Down state is better.
     
  13. mybigguns

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    Sorry, but you are incorrect.
    The Illinois Supreme court ruled the the center console is an acceptable carry case in this ruling on the Diggins case.
    http://www.state.il.us/court/opinions/supremecourt/2009/october/106367.pdf

    Here also is an Illinois State Police Shift briefing ,please read the last paragraph.
    http://lmscnt.ileas.isp.state.il.us/production/cninv000000000002831/content.pdf

    And finally, this FAQ from the Illinois state police says nothing about the trunk of your car, it says Suitable carry case.... locked also does not mean an actual lock, it means zipped, latched, snapped....etc.

    http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf

    As far as being inaccessible you're wording is not correct, it must not be IMMEDIATELY accessible, that means that you have to unlatch something in order to get at it, which a closed center console fits the bill as the supreme court ruled.
     
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  14. 25-5

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    Thanks
    My experience has been the Chicago way. A friend forfeited his dad's unloaded cased 1911 found in his console. With a night in jail. No money for a good attorney may have made the difference there.
    Good research makes for a needed learning experience.
     
  15. Balota

    Balota ... but I used to play keyboards.

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    Keeping your drivers license separate from your carry permit probably makes sense in Illinois since even with the new law there is no reciprocity. They do allow for out-of-state applications for concealed carry permits, but do not recognize other states permits. (The other bill HB-0997 did allow for reciprocity, but that is not the bill that got passed.)

    In any state that does allow for reciprocity, having your carry permit stored with your drivers license is a good idea. Most such states have some requirement for informing an officer as soon as practical during a traffic stop or other interaction. Showing them your permit is generally a safer way to inform them than saying "I have a gun (permit)" since you may not get as far as the "permit" word before they start taking defensive action.

    At the end of the day, the advice is the same. Know the laws of any state you go to before you get there. Obey those laws.
     
  16. 25-5

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    Last I checked only ten states require ID immediately upon official contact, the rest if the officer asks. Voluntary show of ID is up to you in "on demand" states. Lots of pros & cons in that situation.
     
  17. mdauben

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    This is quite true. My home state isn't a "must inform" so I wouldn't say anything unless asked. When traveling, I would probably inform just to be on the safe side. Of course the best way to handle it is just not do things, like speeding or running red lights, that are likely to involve having to interact with an LEO in the first place. ;)
     
  18. mybigguns

    mybigguns New Member

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    BTW I keep all three of these documents in my center console along with my 1911.
     
  19. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    I'll spend the extra money and time just to drive around that sh!t hole.
     
  20. etbob9

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    The last time I was in Illinois was about 55 years ago. I remember
    it as a beautiful State with a lot of corn fields. I never thought much
    about it since, until Obama appeared on the scene. Not my best
    memories any more. Community organizer? Give me a break!

    Must have been on the South side of Chicago!