Dominatrix at the range.

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by kirbinster, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. kirbinster

    kirbinster New Member

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    This lady at the range really scared me today. Either she was a dominatrix or a LEO, I was hoping dominatrix but I am afraid she was a LEO. If she was in fact a dominatrix I would have expected that her handcuffs hanging in their holder on the back of her belt would have been fur covered rather than the classic stainless steel. Anyhow, she took out her Glock 9mm and proceeded to fire at one of those large targets that to me looks like a big milk bottle. She fired a total of about 20 rounds at 10 yards before packing up to leave. Her groupings fairly easily fit into a 24” diameter circle, although many fell outside the outline. Now I realize there is much more to being in law enforcement that being able to shoot, but I have to question if someone that shoots this well should be out carrying a gun?

    I know when I was a kid in NYC there used to be ads on the buses to recruit police officers, and back in the 1970’s one of the requirements were that you had to be at least five foot ten inches tall – and that was back when all patrol cars had two officers in them. I don’t know if 5’-10” is the magic number, but I sure have a lot less confidence when I see a female officer that is about 5’-1” and weighs in at 102 pounds. Likewise I don’t think a patrol officer should be 300 pounds and have to lift his spare tire to be able to pull his weapon. Just call me old fashioned I guess. But I really hope she was a dominatrix not an officer.
     
  2. Kdub

    Kdub New Member

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    You would be surprised at some of the ineptitude of officers and their sidearms. Scary really.
     

  3. deadsp0t

    deadsp0t New Member

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    Heh...... No pictures!? :p
     
  4. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Could this be the woman you saw?:eek:
     

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  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Sticks and stones
    may break your bones-
    But whips and chains
    excite you?

    There were several discrimination suits against law enforcement agencies in the late 70s, They alleged disrimination on the basis of size, without a demonstrated need for the minimums. THAT is how you end up with LEOs that are smaller than their whistle.

    Re: Marksmanship of LEOs- in general, most that are good shots are good shots because it is something they do on their own. SOME will/ have never fired a gun except on department mandates training- which may be annual.


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  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    ill raise you some teletubbies

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    yes thats a full grown griz

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  7. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Hahaha..........great picture.

    The officers in town have invited me to shoot with them when they go for their semi-annual training. I haven't been able to join them yet but I wonder how many of them, if any, I can out shoot. :cool:
     
  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    prolly all of em. ive seen you shoot
     
  9. glockcj

    glockcj New Member

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    I am in LE and we have to shoot every 2 weeks. If you don't pass you shoot once a week or more until range master clears you. And as far as women, we just had a shoot out in NE Ohio in a Amish town where a 32year old women LE officer took a shot to her left hand and leg and still shot the BG. He had a SKS and she had a 9mm. To add she was in training only on that department for two months. She did have five years on another department. Google (shooting in middlefeild Ohio) Don't count out women LE. They tend to shoot better than men because they don't over think the shot. Plus they are better smelling than my partner!!!!
     
  10. robertb6112

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    I think police officers should have to keep weight standards like the military. Maybe not as strict but there should be a standard. Maybe she was just trying out a new gun? Or barrel. Or checking to see if she put it back together correctly? Trying out new ammo. Hopefully.
     
  11. c3shooter

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    Glock- I applaud your dept- you should understand how rare that is.

    Re: Women LEOs- I have been in supervisory positions, had women LEOs, many were excellent officers. However, some depts were hiring 5 ft tall 105 pound officers in the post law suit period- and that is going to be a problem.
     
  12. unclebear

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    Mostly around here most of the LEOs are pretty fit most of the heavy fellers work behind a desk. Hell one of the guys that went to school with my still keeps his win 30-30 in the back of his car. He's a good guy has a bad knee and he's a heavy guy but most of what he does is training and investigation I think.
     
  13. glockcj

    glockcj New Member

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    I agree. I am 43 and work out three times a week. And we do have weight limits. They measure body fat I think it is 22% and a height min of 5'6" We have yearly check up. They also give us stress checks. Must departments in Cleveland follow this. But my father in law is retired K9 from Ohio and moved to Tampa. He is 66yrs and works for the port of Tampa. There is no age limit In Tampa. We have 30yrs and out in our department. 10 years 7 months for me!!!
     
  14. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There is room for many body types and sizes in LE. I am larger than the average bear. I tower over most people, but I am NOT a runner. If I cannot catch you in the first 40 yards, I am going back for the car. 6'06" 285# and football knees.

    My partner Sgt. is about 5'03 115#. She is a ball of fire and runs nearly every day. Granted, I could whip her badly, IF I could catch her.

    Kind of like chosing the right gun for the hunt. We have gotten big enough that several officers will make the scene. One of them will fit the scenario. When I first started, you had ZERO back up. You lived or died based on how well you could use your mouth and how well you could use your fists. Fists were the last resort, but always available.
     
  15. kirbinster

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    Guy don't get me wrong - I think there are lots of woman that are good shooters and great officers. My second point was there should be tighter requirements and F'off to the ACLU. Both the little gal and the big guy should have to meet whatever the physical standards are and those standards should be based on real requirements. Further, I was talking about patrol officers, not detectives or office workers. This is especially true since dual officer cars are a thing of the past.
     
  16. orangello

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    I got cuffed by a lady officer once...I didn't resist; the one-armed officer had her covered. Seriously. I figured, "that guy would have more trouble with cuffs than that pistol, being short an arm." The lady officer seemed very capable and maybe a bit more "ready" to smack me if I chose to try to run or resist.

    Long time ago, lesson learned; there are few good escape plans when you are in a canoe.
     
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  17. Tackleberry1

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    This is Plausible...

    I've occasionally ripped a mag or two through my EDC "rather quickly" just to ensure that "that" particular ammo functioned in "that" particular gun.
     
  18. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Oh I don't like those pictures at all -- those poor officers!
    :(
     
  19. gearhead396

    gearhead396 New Member

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    I was at the range to today shooting my new mp5 and my sr40c there happened to be two officers shooting next to me one of them had a horrible shot no grouping what so ever all over the silhouette at 15 yards compared to my 6 inch grouping right in the center. I wanted to take a pic but didn't have my phone on me I even heard his partner comment something like cmone man this civilian is out shooting you. His partner was a good shot though.
     
  20. RUG3R44

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    Most civilian shooters enjoy a day at the range. A lot of LEO's shoot only when they have to.