Doesn't the Background Check "Register" my Firearm?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by poker99, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. poker99

    poker99 New Member

    I'm new to gun ownership and was wondering:

    There is a lot of concern over being forced to register our firearms with the federal government, but isn't the firearm "registered" with the FBI during the instant baclground check?

    I'm in Oregon and we fill out the background check form, which lists the firearms being purchased, takes our two thumb prints, and then the store runs it through the instant background check. I just assumed they input into that system the firearms that are being purchased, therefore "registering" them with the FBI's background check system.

    Is that not the case?
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

    I don't know about Oregon, but here in Florida the transaction comes down to "a long gun/handgun was purchased by this individual".
    The 4473 stays with the LGS, and serial number of firearm is not known by FDLE or BATF.

  3. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

    I think when they do a background check it is sort of "registered" to you. But I was recently gifted a pistol from my Father. That one is not really "registered" to me. But I have a FOID card and I am legally able to own it.
  4. Cattledog

    Cattledog New Member

    The Firearm Owners Protection Act prohibits the existence of a national registry. Background check information for all non-NFA firearms is temporary and cannot be kept on file indefinitely. Although, when purchasing a firearm using a background check, the buyers name is linked with the serial number of the firearm. That information is stored in the records of firearms dealers as required by the BATFE.

    So, yes and no. The national registry kind of exists within the network of licensed dealers but is technically prohibited to be consolidated into one national registry.
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

    firearms are not registered on a national level via a background check, but some states may have a state registry database. when the FFl does a background check through NCIS, all they do is confirm the applicant is eligible to own a firearm.
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

    The NICS check gets your ID info, and rifle, shotgun or "other". No make, model, serial number. While that info IS recorded on the 4473, THAT form remains at the dealer.
  7. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

    Yeah... until.....

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  8. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

    No the gun is not registered? But the gun owner is. They can get this info from the FFL. When a FFL closes down all these 4473 that are less than 20 years old go to the BATF. And then there is the all knowing Log In Book.:eek:
  9. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

    ATF is prohibited from computerizing this data. The NICS check info is purged after (I believe) 72 hours. The 4473's from closed dealers that are sent to ATF are stored in boxes. A few years ago ATF started to enter them into a database. They got caught. Got their collective pee-pees whacked and ordered (by Congress) to delete the data.

    Dealers are required top keep 4473's for AT LEAST 20 years. It is possible they could have 4473's dating back to 1968.
  10. chuckusaret

    chuckusaret Member

    The maintained 4473 is worthless, IMO, it tracks the weapon to the original buyer who could have since sold it. IMO, based on the number of gun purchases across the US in the past 20 years makes it almost impossible to solve a crime based on manufacturers/distributors shipment information and the 4473. What about the boxes of 4473's turned in when the FFLsurrenders his license and stored at the ATF storage facility. To locate an individual form would be time consuming, labor intensive and very costly. I am sure that a very small percentage of gun crimes are solved by the 4473, but does not justify the tons of paperwork generated.
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2013
  11. Cutlass327

    Cutlass327 New Member

    So here is a question. Does that firearm owner privacy act mean those idiots that published the names and addresses of firearm owners in New York can be prosecuted for invading their privacy?
  12. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

    So, what are you saying? The guns need to be registered to facilitate tracking and crime solving? The turned in 4473's need to be digitized?
    The 4473's should just be shredded because it is to costly and time consuming to look stuff up? The whole 4473 idea needs to be scrapped as it does nothing?

    Pleae clarify.