Does it really work? The BOB edition

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by TWMIM, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. TWMIM

    TWMIM New Member

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    You probably did it.

    You bought stuff, threw it in a backpack, and named the backpack BOB.

    Maybe you were shopping at Wallyworld, saw something you figured would be useful, and tossed that in, as well.

    It's insurance. But is it good insurance? Or just "feel good" insurance?

    I aim to embark on product testing. And more importantly, I ask you to join in.

    Open your BOB, and actually try a product. Post the results here. If you find an awesome deal on a tried and true product, let us know.

    If the product passes, we may all need one. If it fails, we may need to make room in the bag...
     
  2. TWMIM

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    So here's what this looks like...

    The Orion Search and Rescue flare.

    The product promises to burn bright red for 5 minutes, at 2000 degrees.

    It's 5 1/4" long, and sold in two-packs at WalMart for about $5.
     

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  3. TWMIM

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    So maybe rescue is close, and I need to signal.

    Or maybe I need to start a fire.

    Do these little mini road flares work?
     

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    I gathered some dry and wet green leaves.
     

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    And I got a bright red flame, and fire....
     

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    So...

    Bottom line, these work pretty well.

    They do what the package says, I timed it, it burned just under 5 minutes.

    My only concern would be keeping them dry, but worth the weight in the bag.
     

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    Questions on the Orion flare?
     
  8. dog2000tj

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    don't use them out west ..... might burn yourself to a crisp along with the surrounding 87,365 acres :p
     
  9. TWMIM

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    Good point, and they do tell you that on the package.

    Good insurance, though.
     
  10. downsouth

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    If you have a bob bag, wouldn't you have a couple of bic lighters and some sort of tender. That way you are not using a dedicated signal in case of searchers are close by. Although if you are cold and shivering I could see using your flare since small muscle movements are difficult in that situation. Good review !
     
  11. Dillinger

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    Another fine offering for a thread. I vote this should be amended by as many members as possible and Stickied to the top for future reference.

    I believe I have a couple of things to test here. Let's take a walk to the safe. :cool:
     
  12. NitroxAZ

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    I have tested all my gear by going on short trips and have tossed several items and added others. I probably carry too many cutting items. Added weight but different tools for different tasks. The best thing that I have done is made a paracord lanyard that I can slip around my neck so that no matter what happens it is with me. It includes:

    1. Paracord lanyard (approx. 15' of cordage)
    1. A top quality magnesium fire starter.
    2. Very small AAA flashlight
    3. P38 can opener
    4. Whistle
    5. Small keychain type compass
    6. Small neck knife in kydex sheath
     
  13. dog2000tj

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    a great addition to any BOB are maps - good old fashioned maps. They aren't just pretty pictures ... they are loaded with valuable information.


    I've got AZ, NM, CO, UT (from when I lived out west) and all of New England stashed away in the BOB bag. I also have the 3 continental trail maps printed out and stashed in the BOB as well.
     
  14. TWMIM

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    I keep at least 3 ignition sources. But the more effective they are, the less reliable they seem to be.

    This flare burns hot, and for an extended period, but is probably extremely susceptible to moisture. The old magnesium block takes effort, but is indestructible.

    I plan on doing something like this with the whole bag. I have water filtration, I plan to get some pond water and wait for the diarhhea. If it doesn't happen, the product is good.

    Ya'll try one.:cool:
     
  15. Dillinger

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    So one of the things I bought several varieties of were matches and "fire starting gear".

    Here are some matches that I bought that were an absolute disappointment. They were billed as Windproof Matches that would be great for the outdoors and are actually NATO approved.
     

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  16. Dillinger

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    On the surface they look like they would be great matches, but between the little sanding disc they sent with the plastic bag, the outside of a normal box of matches and the concrete, they suffered an 80% plus failure rate at getting the damn things started.

    They do well with the fire against the wind once lit, but if I were freezing, hands shaking, cold to the bone and I had to rely on these things, I think I would probably freeze to death. I would not recommend these matches to anyone.
     

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  17. TWMIM

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    I'll tell you a story.

    I made the wife sit through "Dual Survival". To the unfamiliar, an ex-Army guy and a hippie team up and survive scenarios.

    She was hooked.

    Then she demanded a BOB.

    Then she actually started making me do stuff with her. Okay.

    I'm ex-Army, this will be cake.

    Bull. I broke out a fresnal lens. Make fire with the sun. I broke out a cottonball soaked in Vaseline. Excellent tinder.

    Then I discovered something. That whole magnifying glass trick works on DARK objects. White objects reflect it away. I could get a brown stick to smoulder in under a minute. A white paper towel would sit there all day, not even discolor.

    Then I realized I'd better get hot on this subject. The wife is a freakin bushcraft god, and I'm wondering what would happen with all my high-speed gear if I actually needed it.

    If you have a BOB, you owe it to yourself to make sure it works. You wouldn't carry a gun you've never fired.
     
  18. Dillinger

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    One of the essentials is a way to get someone's attention in piss poor weather should you determine you need to do so.

    The human voice is not designed to compete with Mother Nature, as most of know.

    These whistles from Ultimate Survival, called the Jet Scream, are AWESOME!

    http://www.basegear.com/jetscream.html

    What I like about these whistles is they are all plastic with no moving parts. They can't freeze up like the old stainless steel, cork ball, whistles and these things are so ear piercingly loud they actually hurt my ears to test them. :eek:

    These are a great $6 investment that you can literally buy and check off the list.
     

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  19. Dillinger

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    Don't you have a handgun that no one has seen and we don't have a range report or details on? :confused::p
     
  20. TWMIM

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    This is what I'm talking about. I actually have these, and I've never tried them.

    Evicted from the BOB!

    Well done, My Friend.