Does CCW carry change your choice of movement?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by TekGreg, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. I don't arm myself when I go out. It's for home defense only.

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  2. I occasionally wear my weapon. I avoid areas that I perceive to be dangerous.

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  3. I occasionally wear my weapon. I go wherever I want regardless of perceived danger.

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  4. I always wear my weapon. I avoid areas I perceive to be dangerous.

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  5. I always wear my weapon. I go wherever I want regardless of perceived danger.

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  6. I always wear my weapon. I'm hoping to be in a gunfight wherever I go.

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  1. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    After talking to someone in a gun store for a while, I wanted to find out what the forum members would do in the same situation. I thought I was in the majority, but now I fear I may be wrong.

    This guy I was talking to was an "occasional carrier," sometimes he was armed, sometimes he was not. When I asked him how he decided when to arm himself, he said, "When I need to." I inquired how he knew when he might need his gun or how he determined when he was safe without it. He said, "When I hang around my neighborhood or go grocery shopping, I don't need my gun, but if I have to go into a "bad" neighborhood, I take my weapon." I found out he owned rentals in economically-impoverished areas and would arm himself to do repairs, collect rents or the like. So I asked if he avoided those areas all the time if he was unarmed and he replied, "I won't go certain places without my gun, but when I'm armed, I go wherever I F'ing want! They gotta toe the line or *BLAM* - I'll drill 'em in the @ss!"

    So my question is: Do you arm yourself no matter where you travel? Or do you believe you have omniscience like this guy and only arm up in "bad" areas? Do you avoid areas if you are unarmed, or travel with impunity when armed? Which is the best way?
     
  2. Donn

    Donn Active Member

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    A cowboy. You'll be reading about this guy somewhere down the road.. To your question. If I'm dressed, I'm carrying.
     

  3. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Does it affect where you go? Do you avoid areas you think might get you in hot enough water to draw?
     
  4. sputnik1988

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    I won't go anywhere armed that I wouldn't unarmed. With that being said, unless I'm at work I'm armed and even there I carry a knife.
     
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  5. Nch22000

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    Company policy states I cannot carry while I'm at work. I work as a cable and network technician. I drive a company vehicle in every type of neighborhood all day everyday.
    When I'm outside of work, I carry everywhere I go that is not a gun free zone by law (park, government building) or has the sticker in the window (there is only one place I have seen the sticker, at the food court entrance at the mall- my wife and daughter like the mall...) other than that I carry all the time. I go to my parents house to visit, I carry. I go to the gas station, I carry. I go to the grocery store, I carry. I go to a birthday party, I carry. That being said I live on the Iowa-Illinois border so I have to stow my firearm if I cross the state line (bridge).
    Now there are a group of people that know I carry while not at work, some of them coworkers some family and friends. If I'm even in a situation at work where having my firearm would/could have prevented MY injury or death I want my family to sue the pants off the company I work for. I feel with their no weapon policy bars me from my right to protect myself should the need arise. I feel that carrying all the time establishes a baseline of personal responsibility I take for my safety that would be needed for this type of argument.
    Also I think just carrying when in a "bad" part of town insinuates you are prejudging situations. I can just imagine a prosecutor asking you questions about how you decide when to carry and when you are safe.
    Bottom line I carry everywhere I legally can, criminals don't necessarily strike where you expect them.
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Why, of course I have the ability to foretell the future. That is why I bought Microsoft stock at 50 cents per share, cleaned up on the last 5 Kentucky Derbies, and bought a ton of .22 LR ammo a year ago. I now live in the lap of total luxury on the French Riviera, wealthy beyond the dreams of most men, surrounded by members of the Swedish Bikini Team. :D

    As far as the guy you were talking to, why, yes, he IS an idiot. If he can foretell the future with total certainty, as can I- why is he not living next door to me, borrowing my Grey Poupon? Instead of schlepping around as a landlord in bad neighborhoods.

    Stay far away from him. You would be astounded how far body fluids can splash when one has a misadventure of epic proportions.

    I work in some places you cannot carry. Then, I don't. Elsewhere, I do. Last July, youngest daughter married. When I walked her down the aisle, she knew I was carrying. Did I expect to need it between the foot of the aisle and the altar? (Not unless the groom made a break for freedom- then I might have to wing him)

    I also seriously doubt that the folks at the theatre in Aurora CO, the shopping malls in Klackamas or Utah, or attending services in the church in Colorado Springs thought they were going to need a gun.

    Why not ask him who will win the Superbowl? :rolleyes:
     
  7. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Two great points! Baseline of personal responsibility is a great idea. That a prosecutor could use that line of thinking against you is insightful.
     
  8. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    As far as "traveling with impunity when armed"- HAH! I have been shot at while riding on an armored personnel carrier armed with a .50 cal machinegun and 2 M60s! You don't get much better armed than that!!!

    People that think they are bullet proof because they are armed are amazing. See if you can get them to mention you in their wills.
     
  9. trip286

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    I've drawn and fired my handgun twice, in what I felt was self defense. The first instance definitely was, and the second...is debatable...

    The first time was taking out the trash. Couple years ago. Raccoon acting rabid came out of a culvert, charging and hissing. Great shot, right in the head, moving target, about five yards, at twilight. One handed grip with my other hand holding the garbage bag.

    Second time was a couple days ago when I shot a spider from my front porch.

    My point is, with my particular lifestyle, I'm just as likely to need my gun AT HOME, than anywhere else.

    There were three instances I felt I would've been justified in shooting a person. Two of those times I was unarmed because I'd been at school, so I defended myself hand to hand. The third time, I jammed a lit cigarette in a carjacker's eye while my gun was right next to me (the smoke was already in my hand though).

    I don't frequent bad neighborhoods, moot variable for me.

    Not allowed to carry a gun at work either, but I'm always armed.
     
  10. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    C3, you obviously see my point. I wanted to go into it with him and explain that you never know when the feces is going to hit the reciprocating device, but I felt my efforts would have been in vain. He had the world by the tail and there was no changing his mind.

    Unfortunately, I won't be able to query him regarding the Super Bowl! It was a chance encounter and I will (fortunately) never see him again. Besides, the real way to make money off of the knowledge of the truly omniscient is Super Lotto numbers!:D
     
  11. TekGreg

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    Trip, I also have had to pop a few rabid critters, but the picture in my head of you triggering a .45 hollow point round on a spider is priceless!!! :eek: :cool: ;) I doubt terminal ballistics were relevant to its demise, so no worthy caliber debate there. Any tips on how to KO arachnids??
     
  12. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    230 grain FMJ man... When you're slinging slugs the size of small dogs, who needs hollow point?

    Tip: There are no tips when dealing with the demon spawn of satan. You just kill it.
     
  13. c3shooter

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    Being all knowing (Jimmy Hoffa? Alpo.) I am aware that Lotto is a massive govt. conspiracy. None of the multi mega million winners are real- they are govt. shills. If I were to claim a large prize that they had not planned on, I could wind up sitting next to Jimmy on a shelf in the pet food aisle. :cool:

    2014 Superbowl? Denver.;)

    And yes, the guy you encountered in in the running for a Darwin Award. :D

    PS> As far as explaining life to him- don't bother. Think it was WC Fields that said "Never smarten up a chump."
     
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  14. JonM

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    if im awake i got a gun on me. if im asleep i have one within hands reach.

    simple as that.

    now i do change how im armed depending on where im going and what im doing. the more need there is to not disturb the sheeple the smaller the gun.

    the one ringing truth of anyone that has ever used a firearm to defend themselves is: "I didnt think anything was going to happen..."

    im sure the folks who went to see batman in colorado didnt think they were going to be victims that nite. wasnt a rough or crime ridden neighborhood either. im sure the teachers and parents of the children at sandy hook were totally convinced at breakfast it was going to be a normal day.

    first rule of self defense, and one that you must never violate is "have a gun, any gun."

    goblins dont hand out schedules and they arent geographically bound by magic lines and signs tell them not to commit murder. its not a hard thing.
     
  15. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    THAT is so true. Too bad we can't get everyone to realize this.
     
  16. drvsafe

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    Living in NJ I can't carry all the time...well I can't leave my home with it. But when I am home, my firearm is on me. And when travel permits I travel with my firearm and I CC at all times. Better to have it and not need it...you know the rest.
     
  17. bwraven

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    I carry everywhere that it's legal, and avoid most places where it is not legal.

    I even carry on my boat when I venture out to the San Juan Islands to look for the orcas. A delinquent dolphin can ruin your day! ;)
     
  18. DrFootball

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    I'm at the point in life that I moved to a state to have as little restrictions on my life as possible. I carry anywhere I'm allowed or I don't go, with the exception of my wife's medical appts. Then I sit outside because one has a no gun policy, or I wait in the Escape and listen to some tunes or do phone stuff. At home I don't usually carry unless I'm getting ready to go out or just got home. My CC stays on my nightstand or drawer, but I have other items secured around the house,....
     
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  19. JW357

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    I'm abstaining from voting for now. I do not have a CC permit here in Kommiefornia, so I am violating the first rule of a gunfight at all times.

    Consequently, I don't leave my house unless I'm going to a gun store, shooting, or maybe the grocery store. My wife and I do next to nothing, and we're mostly ok with that. However, when I DO leave my house, I feel unsafe. I have my CCW permit for North Carolina, and for awhile I was used to always having my gun on me when I left the house. I got used to that comfort, and now I absolutely hate not having it.

    When Aurora happened, I told my wife when I get my CCW permit I will always have my gun on me, regardless of where we are (unless there's a metal detector). I have decided to accept whatever consequences legally might happen to me, if I have to use my gun in defense of mine or my family's lives. So why don't I just have the same mentality right now and carry without a permit? I honestly don't know. I feel like the penalties for carrying without a permit are much stiffer [here] than they are for carrying in the wrong places.

    The short of it is, I effing hate this state and absolutely loathe the fact that if I choose to exercise my 2A right, I become an automatic criminal (provided I get caught).
     
  20. TekGreg

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    JW, I feel for you. When I lived there, I carried without a permit because I truly believed I'd rather be alive and cited than dead. I did, however, have an attorney on speed dial that I had consulted and he said he'd be able to defend me for illegal carry. Not everyone is comfortable with that and everyone has to decide on their own how to handle unjust laws. Sometimes the penalties are too steep for you and your family. Be sure to write/call/email your legislators and let them know how you feel and how you'll vote.