When my dad was a young man, in his early 20’s, he was out hunting to put food on the table. He shot a buck and didn’t put it down with one shot. He said he tracked that deer for at least 6 miles before he finally found it in a bunch of brush. When he went in to get it, he found a cave that looked like no one had ever been in. Well, he got married and had 3 kids, and went on with life. About the time the cold war got going really good, he decided he needed a place to go in case things went “to-hell-in-a-hand-basket”, and he remembered that cave. He took us kids up there to show us where it was and how to get there without him, just in case. Over the next couple of years, he had us pack in stuff that would be needed for the long stay. Stuff that would probably still be pretty good today. I doubt that most of the food stuff would still be good, but the other things like medical, water purifying, fire starting, traps for food and things like that would still be useable. The best thing about it was that it had a seep that would fill a gallon jug in about 3 hours. That water was ice cold and sweet. I haven’t been there in a few years, but the last time I was there, it was even more over grown than ever, and other than small animals, it looked like it still hasn’t been found, and the rations looked pretty good. Now, if it came to that SHTF scenario, I would do all I could to get me and my family to that cave. It’s so far off any road or trail, it would take somebody that knew exactly where to look to find it. Took me a few tries before I remembered. As far as I know, there were only 5 people that knew where that cave was, and 3 of them are gone. About the only thing I would have to bring would be clothes and ammo for my Winchester and my Ruger, because what ammo is there is almost as old as I am, (65), and I wouldn’t be carrying the guns it was made for. I’d use the old stuff to make mantraps, and yes, I do know how to make some pretty nasty s--t. I learned from the best over in Nam. All that said, I hope and pray that I never find myself having to live there.