do you have a model20 10mm?

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by splashtx556ftw, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. splashtx556ftw

    splashtx556ftw New Member

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    im about to buy a model 20. has any one had any problems with them? i have an EAA 10mm that the slide cracked on due to recoil of this round. they said they will fix it but i no longer want it.:confused:
     
  2. Carne Frio

    Carne Frio New Member

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    I have and shoot both the Glock M20 and Witness 10mm. The only
    concern I would have is; do you have small hands ? If so, the Glock
    may not fit you. The Glock is the most reliable and trouble free
    semi auto that I have ever had. ( I also have 1911's and BHP's):D
     

  3. splashtx556ftw

    splashtx556ftw New Member

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    if you have a witness 10mm, watch the slide closly.the crack that appeared in mine after 800 or so rounds was at the back side of the port on the left side. EAA says this is a very big problem with the 10mm alone. its on its way back to them now. i dont have small hands but the glock does feel a bit odd. im sure ill get used to it after a while.
    thank you
     
  4. AFPVet

    AFPVet New Member

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    Sure do and love it :D Also, the Glock M20 was designed around the original full power Norma loads.
     
  5. splashtx556ftw

    splashtx556ftw New Member

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    well ill have to say that EAA s customer service is pretty good. i got my 10mm back today.
    i only paid shipping there.
     
  6. Dave T

    Dave T New Member

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    I have two G20s and both handle any kind of ammunition, from the watered down stuff Federal puts out to the maximum effort rounds from Double Tap, Buffalo Bore and Cor-Bon.

    I like the added comfort of after market barrels as they provide a bit more chamber support. That being said, one of my G20s has the stock barrel and it feeds and functions everything I've put through it. I just wouldn't use that brass for reloading.

    Dave
     
  7. Patrick Sperry

    Patrick Sperry Member

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    Same for me!

    I have a 20,and it has been to Afghanistan with my son twice. Never failed and Mohammad's pretty boys really don't like it!

    Anyways, I just ordered some Buffalo Bore XTP ammo. Any comments on that? My pistol really prefers the 180 grain bullets so that is what I ordered.

    As for small hands and the trigger ask Bear about that. I have relatively small hands too. Doc at Prairie Arms in the Denver area did a trigger / accuracy tune job on it, and since then I have had no problems at all with it.

    Maybe I found a home! I love my Glock!
     
  8. Dave T

    Dave T New Member

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    I haven't tried any of the Buffalo Bore offerings yet. I have shot two of the 180g loads offered by Double Tap, the 180g Match and the 180g Bonded HP. Both were milder in recoil than I was expecting, a pleasant surprise in both of my G20s. I have two of DT's 200g loads on order for testing. Curious as to how they will feel vs the 180g.

    Dave
     
  9. Patrick Sperry

    Patrick Sperry Member

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    Okay...

    Okay, now I'm cornfused,as I only all too often say to bear...

    The ammo that I ordered fro Buffalo said Double tap on it. From Midway...

    My 20 does not like the 200 grain whatever. 15 yard shooting. What I consider combat groups, go to about 7 inches with 200 grainer's of any stripe that I have tried.

    Not good if you have to make the "hostage" shot. The 180 grain Hydra Shok's at that range? Quarter sized groups... Not to mention that recoil is negligible. Making the classic triple tap, a real possibility. If I do my part that is.
     
  10. Dave T

    Dave T New Member

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    Have no explination for "Buffalo Bore" ammo being labeled "Double Tap". Kind of weird.

    The Fed Hydro-Shok is the much talked about (snickered at) FBI load. I only generates 1030 fps from a 5" barrel. This is just a bit over 40 S&W performance and might even be matched by some 40 rounds from a 5" barrel.

    I will concede the Double Tap rounds I've tried so far were not brilliantly accurate. The most accurate load I've shot to date has been the Hornady 180g XTP.

    [​IMG]

    This is sort of a medium 10mm in terms of velocity. Not up to the original standard of performance but a good bit hotter than any 40 S&W with the same bullet weight. Hornady claims 1180 fps and my experience with them is they are one of the more honest in that regard. Occasionally I've chrono'd some of their loads and gotten a bit more than the factory says. Never had that happen with any other brand of factory ammo.

    A good example of wishful thinking by the ammo makers is the 10 mm Winchester 175g Silvertip. They claim a velocity from a 5" barrel of 1290 fps. The last time I shot it through my Oehler SkyScreens I got 1167 fps from a G20. I talked to one guy who only got 1140. Never met or heard of anyone getting 1200, let alone the claimed 1290.

    Dave
     
  11. Patrick Sperry

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    Thanks!

    I guess that I'll just have to wait and see then. I'm thinking that I'll probably have to roll my own to squeeze the max out of the G 20. To date, I've had nothing but good performance from it. Silver Tips were that low end? They sure are proud of that load...
     
  12. Glockmaniac

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    seriously, my good friend's been trough 4,yes 4 G20 and all of them ended with a cracked frame ....i know he was very carefull with the ammo used, so i dont know what to think about it....i personnaly own 2 G22, one has been trough over 100,000 rounds and other than springs i never had any issue, but again, i load my rounds pretty mild , like 1100-1150 fps.after all .40 is just a shorter 10mm case...

    my take on this is that it might be good to swap the stock barrel for another wich will get you a supported chamber...
     
  13. BCOWANWHEELS

    BCOWANWHEELS New Member

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    I HAVE 2 G20,S BOTH EARLY MODELS. where did your buddys frame crack ?
    both of mine have been perfect in every way except they needed trijicon sights....
     
  14. MTS840

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    I bought a G20 SF and G29 SF this year. I use Double Tap 180 gr. Speer Gold Dots in both for CCW. I haven't put many rounds through them yet, but I hope mine last for years to come.
     
  15. Patrick Sperry

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    Finaly...

    The Buffalo Bore is finally in and has been shipped. The Double Tap has also arrived. Now,if the weather will cooperate I'll try them both out.
     
  16. richardnorton

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    10 MM Glocks

    I have a Glock M20 and the smaller (M30 I think) both fun to shoot, but I like shooting the M22, M23 and M27 better. I also have one of the original FBI S&W 10 MM pistols with the decocking lever for a safety, it hides in the safe with most of the ogther smith psitols. My 10 MM glocks are both the earlier models Glock put out. Another thing to watch for with any Glock pistol, especially the bigger calibers (M20 and M21) you can't limp wrist them without having a failure to feed problems all day long. Love my 10's the recoil is much harder than a .45 ACP any day.
     
  17. Patrick Sperry

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    Thanks for the info!

    Due to the weather I haven't been able to try the Buffalo Bore or Double tap yet. I'm getting a new supported barrel for my pistol on the advice of Bear from The Glock Store out of San Diego.

    I'm not sure about the tricks that Doc did to my pistol back when I first got it years ago but it seems to toss brass about six feet out of the way. The trigger is sweet as is so I'm leaving it alone.

    Early last summer I set up an IPSC type target on the 100 yard rifle range, and, amazingly, put ten rounds on paper using cheap American Eagle 180 grain ammo. So I'm pretty happy with that to say the least!
    Thanks for commenting!
     
  18. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Id need photographic evidence of any G20 frame issue.

    Ive run about 5k through mine. From homerolled lite 155's up to +p home rolled 180s. http://www.georgia-arms.com/10mm-5.aspx 155gr+p Gold dots and their 180gr Gold Dots.

    Never a problem.
     
  19. Patrick Sperry

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    I keep asking about that as well, and have gotten nowhere. My pistol is from the mid 90's and has at least 50K through it,with no problems as of yet. I'm getting the barrel as an upgrade, and to help set Bears mind at ease too!

    As far as KB's go? Any manufacturer that has been around for any real amount of time has had one, or more. Firearms are machines, and machines do break. It's a fact. Are Glock's more prone to that type of malfunction than any others?

    I submit that in today's litigious society that if they were trial lawyers would be running adds on TV and driving us nuts with them. Not to mention that they really seem to be the choice of most LEO's these days...
     
  20. glock2740

    glock2740 New Member

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    I have a G20 and like it alot. I have really been thinking about a grip reduction though.