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Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Shopfox, Jan 19, 2020.
So far, I'm finding the 124gr amm shoots better than 115gr too.
it is .356. My pistol was measured to and determined to use .3555 from a guy who made lead SWC bullets. Loved the hole they made, but I had serious leading issues.
Over many years, I have found the 124gr rounds a bit more accurate for me. I have read a few times that the 9mm Parrabellom was designed for the 124gr. Fact or not, I'm not certain.
I could be wrong but most manufacturers keep the 124gr NATO load in mind when designing pistols in order to be competitve when trying to land gov/mil contracts. European NATO spec ammo is my preference when buying bulk 9mm. It is generally dirt cheap and very high quality. IMHO no reason to shoot reman/steel cased when you can the Euro stuff for about the same price.
Remember this, the 9mm Luger was originally designed for the 124gr. That could be the difference.
I would like to know where you find all that Euro NATO ammo at? All I find, if available, is more expensive.
Can you post the brands and sources of this Euro Nato ammo in 124gr?
Geco is truly excellent ammo.
Freedom Munitions was recently selling Geco 124 gr for $0.16/round (think they are sold out). I realize there is cheaper ammo out there but I dont mind paying a but more for something that shoots better and cleaner. I also buy a couple cases at a time when ever I catch some on sale which helps with savings.
I know Geco is pretty good ammo, but I still like the Winchester Q4813 NATO head stamped ammo better.
I think Outdoor Limted and Ventura Muntions have the Winchester for 16-18 cents per round
Not to the specs I just gave that I can see.
Just a quick pic. to share. I started weighing a box of 124gr XTP's. I ended up weighing 50 of them. I was super impressed with their consistency.
I said @#$%! it and did all 100.
Get HAP instead of XTP, much more consistent.
I found Extreme 125(?) target bullets to be slightly more accurate on target. Never gone to the level of weighing the bullets.
If you really want to drive yourself crazy, take all 100 bullets fire on a bench with a rest and track their position to zero
Me, my eyesight ain't what it used to be, nor am I steady enough to take advantage of perfect ammo
Sorry didn't have time to search inventory. Both places generally have it in stock. Like I said I generally buy in bulk when I get email alerts. Will be happy to pass along the next time I find some cheap. Never really shot much of the Winchester stuff. Quick Google search found some at $0.20 round at Target Sports.
Here's the best 5-shot group at 100 yards from today: 1-1/4", 100 yards w. 124gr XTP over power pistol powder. Not bad for a $120 rifle with a $20 Simmons 3-9x40:
I'll try the HAP's eventually. I need to let the bank account recover for a while first.
See, a Hi Point 9mm carbine is capable of it. Most do not want to think they can be that accurate. Screw the disbelievers. I can't do it every time, but my two carbines can do it.
I don't reload 9mm, but the Q4318 NATO 124gr loads do it for both wife and I. We really like those 995ts carbines.