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From the "facts" listed in the news report, and there aren't many, I don't think him carrying for protection would have stopped this attack. He was shot once, at close range, possibly with one of the weapons he had with him at the range.

Speculative - But at this point I am going to go with someone who knew the victim and this was not random. I think the theft of the guns was probably secondary to the murder itself.

Be interesting to see how this plays out. Condolences to the family and friends - I hope they catch the guy and let the mob have him. He sounded like a good man....

As to the question in general - Yes, I frequently carry while at the range and don't shoot with my carry gun at that time. When I want to practice with my carry piece, I rotate to my full size on my hip. Better to be safe than sorry....

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The way things are today I would consider public shooting ranges one of the most dangerous places in the world, like public land during deer season. All kinds of nut cases go to public ranges - you;'ve seen them - all decked out in camo and referring to their AR-15's and AK-47 clones as "assault rifles", or using the 100 yd range to shoot their "tactical' Shotguns and hitting everything BUT their target. Many of these weekend warriors live in the city and only shoot a couple of times a year, which in and of itself makes them dangerous!
 

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I always carry while at the range, like Dillinger I do not shoot that gun at that time. And I thought I was a little nutty for doing so, but there was one time a group of shady guys came in to shoot, and I just thought I am very vulnerable while reloading. Ever sense then, I have always been armed at the range.
 

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This is a real shame. I feel for his family and friends. I also do not believe being armed would have been a benefit in this case. I have heard of people being robbed of their guns and belongings while at the range but do not remember anyone being killed. What a waste of a good human life.

I, for a long time, have been very nervous while at the range when there is only one other shooter or single group of shooters. I am always observant and on guard. Paranoid I guess. I also always have one handgun loaded and ready for use if required. This includes when going down range to check/change targets. Consequently, usually concealed.

I truly hate to believe someone would do this but this day and age we have to be ever vigilant.
 

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Nice place to shoot though! That is until you run into Charlie Manson wanna be's...
It is a nice place to shoot. I also don't go alone. We're not standing like targets right next to each other either. If one was in trouble the other one's always in range to open a second front. My new favorite place is the highest ground in the area. I can see anyone coming from up to a mile away, no one will catch us by surprise. Nice little dust trails exposes everyone coming up that way.
 

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It is a nice place to shoot. I also don't go alone. We're not standing like targets right next to each other either. If one was in trouble the other one's always in range to open a second front. My new favorite place is the highest ground in the area. I can see anyone coming from up to a mile away, no one will catch us by surprise. Nice little dust trails exposes everyone coming up that way.

+1. Get a Barrett .50!!! Unless that's the Ca. desert, in which case you can't own one...
 

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I'm going to the range this morning. As usual, I'll carry one of the two identical guns I use for that purpose, and take the other one, plus a few others, to shoot. Next time I go to the range, I'll rotate the carry guns. I have always done this, and plan on continuing to do so.
 

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I only get nervous at one particular range. It's a open, free, outdoor range in the Ocala National Forrest (FL). Every type of Yahoo goes out there. Most are very responsible and demonstrate proper firearm safety, but every time I go, there are guys doing one stupid thing after another. The state recently renovated the range and in short order, the jerks shot up the new bathrooms (toilets included), the new signs showing safety rules, and of course the roof of the outdoor range. I imagine it'll be closed one day due to this behavior. When I do go to this range, I prefer to carry. I also have somebody stay with the firearms while I change targets when it's a cold range. This type of reckless use of firearms adds fuel to the fire of most anti-gun activist. Some peoples right to own firearms should be revoked!
 

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Yes i do, our range is 10 miles out of town and is home to deer, elk, cats, and bears. I also never leave the gun i'm shooting sitting there ready to be fired. You might be the best pistol shot in the world, but if your out changing targets at100-200 yds your pistols not worth much if your rifle is sitting back at your shooting station loaded. blue
 

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The Pastor mentioned in the first post in this thread, was murdered by a couple of AWOL military guys whom he did NOT know.

If you don't have a concealed carry license, get one, and always carry a concealed handgun at the range.

I only take one weapon to the firing line at a time, and leave the rest locked in my car. I also park the car where I can see it clearly from the firing line, and within handgun range.

Leaving weapons sitting unsecured on a firing bench while you walk downrange, is simply begging for them to be stolen, and theft at ranges is on the rise.
 

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Leaving weapons sitting unsecured on a firing bench while you walk downrange, is simply begging for them to be stolen, and theft at ranges is on the rise.
This doesn't surprize me, as every other crime is on the rise. I fly RC airplanes in a desolate area of town and I'm always packing a "cocked & locked". Opportunitist criminals are everywhere looking for non-suspecting victims. I won't be one of them...
 

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A buddy of mine had a .22 bullet whiz by his head a while back at a public range. He said there was a group of numbnuts with about 6 kids messing around. One of the kids picked up a .22 rifle and started waving it around. The rest is history.
 

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hmmm... I never felt unsafe at our range. Everyone has been so nice and seemed safe. People have let me shoot their guns, and i have shown them mine, letting them test my new toys out.

I've had the thought cross my mind about something bad going down, but everyone there has been like family. Your comments WILL make me practice securing my firearms while walking down range.

I suppose something COULD happen, but they have security watching all the booths during the cease fire. They aren't there to watch for theft, more about keeping people away from ANY live weapons while targets are being changed. But the chances of theft are reduced as long as security is watching...
 

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carry at the range? I carry everywhere it's legal to do so. And yes, while shooting, I always have a loaded firearm within reach, unfortunately when out in the desert, I'm almost always by myself. :(
 

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carry at the range? I carry everywhere it's legal to do so. And yes, while shooting, I always have a loaded firearm within reach, unfortunately when out in the desert, I'm almost always by myself.
No offense intended, but it's not wise to be out in the desert by yourself. Find a shooting buddy, preferably two, before heading out to the middle of nowhere.
 
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