Do the job right!

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Gestapo Hunter, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. Gestapo Hunter

    Gestapo Hunter New Member

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    Just so you know i got no problem with the USA fighting the Taliban,those guys need to be put down like rabid dogs.. But if you are going after them please kill them all. Cause for some reason they are running into my country and they are raising hell with the islamic minority here. basically they would incite riots and train them to fight us. Hell we had to turn half a town into a parking lot all in the mean while your media is calling us mass murders.So please America just bomb, shoot, or what ever you guys do,please just kill them cause they're like rats coming into our house now.
     
  2. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    The Taliban are one strain of islamic fundamentalists; there are many others. The longer civilized countries around the world ignore the efforts of jihadis, the worse off we will all be.

    And if the worst should happen -- if nuclear weapons are acquired by these animals -- it will make World War II look like a walk in the park.

    Many people are very surprised to learn there are groups and individuals linked to terrorist organizations and there are paramilitary training camps all throughout the United States. If they are here, we can be sure they are literally everywhere.

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    (pronounced "lan astaslem" and means "I will not submit")
     

  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    I have to agree with bkt - The Taliban, while horrible, are not the only, nor the root cause, of the issue. Getting rid of them will help, but it will not end the attacks, the recruiting or bring peace to anything.

    Islam itself needs to be directly pointed at and exposed for what it is - a genocidal program disguised as a religion to gain acceptance.

    You can't reason with, or make a treaty with, a group of people who's whole goal is the complete eradication of everyone who isn't "with" them.

    If you take a look at history, you will see each time it's tried, it hasn't worked out so well for the group looking for peace.

    JD
     
  4. RL357Mag

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    This country won't "do it right". It hasn't won a war or a conflict since the end of WWII. Hell, if they listened to Patton we would never have had a cold war. Look at Korea and Vietnam....no, we won't get it right., and if Obama gets elected it will get much worse.
     
  5. BigO01

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    Well guys I could turn this into a long rant , but I wont I'll keep it short and sweet and to the point .

    The real problem here is no one in any government is going to take a firm stance against right and wrong , friend or foe because of all of the favors they owe to get elected to big business and their partys .

    When it's all boiled down everyone doesn't want to offend anyone even if they are trying to kill them because they are perhaps future customers to business or future constituents and Votes for them to gain power .

    In the end despite the rhetoric spewed by people like McCain he is going to compromise or "Reach across the isle" and work with those destroying us until the job is done .

    All of the major Nations with the exception of those ruled with an Iron fist are in the control of fools now .
     
  6. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

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    "When it's all boiled down everyone doesn't want to offend anyone even if they are trying to kill them because they are perhaps future customers to business or future constituents and Votes for them to gain power ."

    Perfect, summed it all up in one sentence. Kudos Big0o1.
     
  7. bkt

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    Might a coordinated attack against multiple Western cities not give the politicos sufficient cause to act? Americans would be pretty ticked off if they did not act, and as BigO01 points out, those in office care about their poll numbers.

    It says a lot that it would take a catastrophic, coordinated attack to gin up the testicular fortitude to do the right thing.

    I would remind you that extremism in defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! -Barry Goldwater
     
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  8. RL357Mag

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    Wasn't 9/11 a catastrophic coordinated attack? I thought is was. Where is the fervor today? Pretty short-lived testicular fortitude! On the contrary, instead of killing every last Islamo terrorist that so much as burns an American flag, we want to give them their "day in court" and prosecute our own military for war crimes!!!! This country has no testicles anymore - we've been "fixed".
     
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  9. bkt

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    It was ballsy, but not catastrophic.

    By "catastrophic" I'm talking multiple Western cities being hit at once with nuclear weapons.

    Exactly! So here's my next question: would a hit that caused hundreds of thousands or millions of casualties keep people fired up against the enemy, or will we forget it when the next episode of Lost comes on? See, that's what concerns me.

    It may be that until Joe Sixpack has to go step on a squirrel in order to feed his family, he won't get a clue.

    Screw that. Last time I looked, I wasn't as you describe.
     
  10. RL357Mag

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  11. bkt

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    In no way am I diminishing the magnitude of 9/11. While it was NOT the first islamic terrorist attack on our soil, it was, by far, the biggest single terrorist strike of all time.

    They are looking to outdo 9/11.

    It may be that until there is no food on the shelves at the stores, no electricity or gas, etc. that America as a whole wakes up. Sure, there will always be the "blame America first" crowd, but they're not the majority by a long shot.

    As for carrying on a dialog with beebs, we do ourselves no favors by insulting those who don't see eye-to-eye with us. Insults repel people and reinforce stereotypes. Dialog keeps them around and makes all of us think.
     
  12. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Vote for John McCain! He will provide the needed equipment and support to GET R' DONE.
     
  13. RL357Mag

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    +1 - and Russia and Iran know it. What is needed is to re-establish ourselves as the world super-power, just as was needed after the peanut farmer fuc$ed everything up. Dialogue only commands respect when it is backed up by strength. The fascist regimes worldwide would LOVE to see an Obama victory, as would the UN. Obama already vowed to gut our military the way Carter and Clinton did. We are living in the aftermath of that treason, and if something isn't done quickly, we will be stretched beyond our ability to respond quickly and appropriately.
     
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  14. Mark F

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    "PEACE in STRENGTH", there is no other way.
     
  15. Gestapo Hunter

    Gestapo Hunter New Member

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    i really wish that can be true
     
  16. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    I have no doubt we'll find out before too long...
     
  17. bkt

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    It is true. In my opinion, however, the U.S. has not yet shown much strength and the rest of the West has shown even less strength.

    Strength is respected. Weakness is exploited.
     
  18. Dillinger

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    That about sums up how we would have to deal with the Entire Middle East as a whole. Until everyone comes around to that way of thinking, we are going to continue to shoot ourselves in the foot with most basic steps "forward".

    JD