Do I need to carry a CCP to carry a knife?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by gmaster456, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. gmaster456

    gmaster456 New Member

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    Does carrying something like a utility/pocket/folding knife count as a "concealed weapon" and would I need to carry a permit for it to have it on me? This is in Michigan. There seems to be a lot of gray area concerning knives.
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Your best bet is if someone familiar with your states laws chimes in. I think in my state, as long as the blade isn't over a certain length it's all good without a permit.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Weapons laws, like he just said up there, vary state to state.

    In GENERAL, a folding knife that has a blade less than 3 inches, does not have a spring opener, etc, is considered an ordinary tool. Don't try to take one into a courthouse or jail, though- and not on an airplane.

    SOME states have their own quirks. Mass considers a double edged knife to be an "assault knife". A butterfly (balisong) knife in Vegas is a felony. Virginia considers a non-folding knife to be a "dirk".

    A Swiss Army knife or Boy Scout sized knife is not likely to be a legal problem, but we are not likely to be lawyers, either. (Well, we think there ARE one or two around here, but they keep a low profile :))

    DO check with your local authorities.
     

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  4. gmaster456

    gmaster456 New Member

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    This is about all I've been able to dig up and I've been searching for hours.

    Michigan -750.226... Carrying with unlawful intent
    Any person who, with intent to use the same unlawfully
    against the person of another, goes armed with a pistol
    or other firearm or dagger, dirk, razor, stiletto, or
    knife having a blade over 3 inches in length, or any
    other dangerous or deadly weapon or instrument, shall
    be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in
    the state prison for not more than 5 years or by a fine
    of not more than 2,500 dollars.

    - 750.226a. Pocket knife opened by mechanical device...
    Any person who shall sell or offer to sell, or
    any person who shall have in his possession any knife
    having the appearance of a pocket knife, the blade or
    blades of which can be opened by a flick of a button,
    pressure on a handle or other mechanical contrivance shall
    be guilty of a misdemeanor... [Also, concealed carry may
    be charged as a felony under 750.227.] The provisions of
    this section [750.226a] shall not apply to any one-armed
    person carrying a knife on his person in connection with
    his living requirements.

    - 750.227. (1) A person shall not carry a dagger, dirk,
    stiletto, a double-edged nonfolding stabbing instrument of
    any length, or any dangerous weapon, except a hunting
    knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about
    his or her person, or whether concealed or otherwise in
    any vehicle... except in his or her dwelling house [or]
    place of business... (3) A person who violates this
    section is guilty of a felony...



    Its incredibly vague. basically I've interpreted it to say, that as long as I don't have any criminal intent to inflict bodily harm on anyone with the "weapon", I can carry any size blade I want, but its up to the LEO to determine what my intent was, and its my word against his :(, unless of course the blade is for hunting, in which case I'd have to prove the I was in fact, hunting, or heading to or from my hunting location.

    But yes, I will talk to the one of the local authorities as well and try to get some detail.
     
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  5. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Sounds to me like I would carry a normal pocket knife with a blade less then 3 inches.

    Hint, there are some tactical folders in that size.
     
  6. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    plus one. ...also make sure its razor sharp. dull knives wont help
     
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  7. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Hey, dull knives make great screw drivers.
     
  8. PSYCHOFREAK3

    PSYCHOFREAK3 New Member

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    Now the trick is to get a dull heavy knife, I had just a cheap knife that weighed what felt like 2 lbs but it was under 1 had a dull but thick blade. Was the best improvised hammer/screwdriver/crowbar/paperweight but not such a great knife.
     
  9. HOSSFLY

    HOSSFLY New Member

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    Seems pretty clear to me -Carry a plain pocket knife with a blade no longer than 3" & dont carry it with the intent to stick someone :rolleyes: