Do i need a gun???

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by 777, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. 777

    777 New Member

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    Hi all, I need your advice on advising me if my situation warrants a firearm and if so, Ill need some recommendations.

    Here it goes...
    I am a freshman college student who works weekend night shift (10pm to 6am) at a gas station convenience store.
    The job is convenient as it lets me earn some extra cash without taking time out from my school work.

    I have not carried any weapon for the 2 months I have been working there and have not been held up (thank god!). But have had a number of close calls the last couple weeks including a man walking in with a bandanna over his face claiming it was too cold outside :eek: :mad:

    I am not scared at all of working here, but do sometimes feel that since i am of Arab decent that a robber may feel that harming me may have less consequences than others.

    Just to recap
    -What are the pros and cons of the gun (perspective from gun owners)
    -What are some recommendations...snub nose revolver, semi, ak-47 ???
    -if the gun is kept under a store counter do i need a concealed carry permit?

    Thanks for your help.
     
  2. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Are you at least 21 years of age. Not typical for a college freshman. If not, forget a handgun.

    Benefits of a gun? It can save your life... nuf said.
    Recommendation? In a relatively stationary environment... shotgun.
    Concealed carry permit? Not likely, but always check with local laws.

    Now these are very high level recommendations. There's a whole lot more info needed for anything specific.

    What is your experience with firearms?
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I don't think it would be a bad idea to have a firearm available, but using it would probably get you some headaches with your boss and maybe the police. I would absolutely not suggest using the firearm to stop a robber from taking the $39.50 from the register, but i would want one available incase things seemed to be moving more towards murder than a simple robbery.

    You might also have issues with storing the firearm if you live on campus; many campuses don't allow you to keep a firearm on campus.

    Honestly, me personally, i'd get a bullet resistant vest first and then consider a revolver, probably a .38 or larger.

    edit* It occurs to me that the first Glock i ever shot was a model 19 that a buddy picked up in college for protection on his bank deposit runs for the restaurant he managed.
     
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  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    First, welcome to the forums- please stop by the intro section, and say hello.

    Couple of points- you say you are a freshman- but did not tell us your age. MOST freshman are about 18-19 years old- and that is not old enough to legally buy a handgun through a dealer- Federal law.

    Second- what experience have you had in using a firearm? They are not automated, and the safe and competent use of ANY firearm is a learned skill. If you have not yet acquired those skills, you may be better off with a more user friendly defense, such as a GOOD pepper spray- and the knowledge of when to use it, and when not to.

    The legalities of having a firearm concealed from view, but accessible for immediate use outside of your home GENERALLY fall under the concealed weapons laws of the various states- but I am not a lawyer, few if any of us passed the bar (ever)- but you can probably get some good information from your State rifle Assocation.

    Frankly, working the night shift at the local Stop-N-Rob requires security measures that go beyond having a firearm.
     
  5. 777

    777 New Member

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    I had not considered the age factor, im 18 years old.
    I have never owned a firearm but intended to take safety course and practice at range.
    Just simple self defense if things get out of hand
     
  6. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    No Such Thing as Simple Self Defense when a firearm is involved. It is always threatening, dangerous and at times involve personal injury or death.

    Not so simple, and if things get out of hand, you'd better be prepared to use every ounce of training you have received from hand to hand combat to defensive shooting.

    I'd find another job!! It's not worth the $10 an hour, IMHO!
     
  7. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Head to the range and get in a class. That's the smartest use of your time and money right now.
     
  8. 777

    777 New Member

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    Thanks guys for the sound advice.
    Apart from not being 21 (should have checked that first:rolleyes:),
    In my case it may be more trouble than its worth to carry a gun.
    I will focus on the hold up training i was given and always try to remain vigilant.

    Thanks again guys,
    Take care.
     
  9. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Best of luck to you!

    Remember, if they don't think the drawer is enough money, you might point out that some of those ice tubs have wheels to allow them to take some nice cold beer to go with their pizza money. ;)



    edit* A question to help you determine the danger level of your particular convenience store: Does the store display single ChoreBoy cotton scrubbers and glass tubes with tiny flowers in them? If yes, that is a bad, bad sign that some unusually desperate people with impaired logical abilities will be shopping with you and scoping out the store as a potential source of money for crack. Hide the ChoreBoy and flower tubes when you are working.
     
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  10. 777

    777 New Member

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    LOL at the test.:D

    The store is around the corner from my house in an upscale neighborhood which is a suburb of Columbus(i am a commuter student who lives at home), but our customers interestingly are of all different socio-economic levels.

    Some days we only sell ice cream & Gatorade to soccer moms and their kids... while the next were only selling 40 oz king cobra and Milwaukee's .:confused:

    But considering the freeway back to Downtown Columbus is only a few minutes away, it always pays to be careful :cool:
     
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  11. skullcrusher

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    Do you live in Franklin County or work in Franklin County? If yes, then you definately need to look into pepper spray and/or a taser for your personal protection at this point. Putting any firearm, even a rifle or shotgun into the mix (18+ for those) will cause you serious trouble. You need to discuss what protection your employer can provide for you as well.
     
  12. dog2000tj

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    I have some personal experience with this.

    I would say do whatever you feel necessary to defend yourself. A good friend of mine - of Arab descent, was put in a position while at work that he could not have avoided trouble. :mad: A more experienced manager could have avoided the ensuing trouble but that was not the case. When I inquired as to why my friend was fired I was told "he is a trouble maker". Of course, when the company execs heard that my position would have been to "assist Tariq in any way possible" that was not received well either.

    My position - it is only work ... do what you fell you need to do to go home at night and kiss your family good night ;)
     
  13. NGIB

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    When you have to ask yourself this question - you have not made the commitment necessary to provide for your own defense. Even if you were old enough to carry - you shouldn't - until you KNOW that this is the correct path for you...
     
  14. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    But then there's the unfortunate possibility that an Arab-American buying any firearm may get them put on the FBI's watch list in this day and age.

    Come to think of it... just being on this forum may put us all on the FBI's watch list. Hmmmm.... :cool:
     
  15. FreedomFighter69

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    A good semi-auto chambered in 40 S&W, or 45 ACP would be a good deal.
    The 45 will actually be easier to shoot because it's a big, heavy, slower bullet.
    An AK-47 is very threatening but are you really going to have time to get to it, get it in battery, and use it ? Whereas you could carry a pistol with a round pre-chambered, hammer down or cocked and locked, draw and shoot right from the hip ! Go with a good handgun, pistol or revolver !
    A 357 snubbie is another gun to consider also !
     
  16. FreedomFighter69

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    Sorry, just noticed your 18 years old ! No handguns for you yet, but a shotgun is obtainable ? This would be up to your boss though as to whether he would allow it in his business ?
     
  17. Tidalforce79

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    This may sound like irresponsible advice, but I personally was held up when I was at a gas station. Having a gun may very well save your life. If you're in that much danger, I would first consider quitting the job. Second, I think the penalty for carrying a concealed weapon is minor compared to being dead. I've heard numerous stories of people illegally carrying guns, and using them to defend either themselves, or someone else(in this case a guy had a gun in a bank, and shot a robber). In each of these cases, the person that saved their own life, or someone Else's, was set free without any penalties. I am a responsible, law biding citizen when it comes to guns, but, if I was in a situation that my life could be in danger, I would be tempted to carry a weapon illegally. Just my two cents, but make your own decision. You also have to consider how liberal your state is before you pull a stunt like that.