"Do "Gun-Free" Zones Encourage School Shootings?"

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by cnorman18, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. cnorman18

    cnorman18 New Member

    Here's a great column by Larry Elder in Human Events:

    Do "Gun-Free" Zones Encourage School Shootings?
    by Larry Elder
    Posted: 10/18/2007


    Here are a few excerpts:

    "Do shooters consider schools "gun-free zones"? Do they consider it unlikely that any authority figure -- whether teachers or, in some cases, security guards -- poses an armed threat? But in some school shooting cases, guns helped to end shooting sprees and minimize loss of life and injury."

    "Israel gets it. Since the 1970s, on school campuses in Israel, policy requires teachers and parent aides to arm themselves with semi-automatic weapons. The result? School shootings have plummeted to zero."

    There's much more. Enjoy.
  2. berettaindy

    berettaindy New Member

    Good Point

    It sounds simular to the concealed carry laws. People are more worried that someone else could shot back.

  3. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    In the US we are in a much different situation than they are in Israel, but I would still be in favor of teachers with CCW permit being alowed to carry in school. Or really anyone with a CCW premit being alowed to carry in a school.
  4. SASD209

    SASD209 Guest

    "Do "Gun-Free" Zones Encourage School Shootings?"

    Gun free zones are only good for the bad guys, who know they have an un-armed population to terrorize. Doesn't matter if it's schools or malls or a city. Just my $0.02.
  5. mrwatch

    mrwatch New Member


    A man sought a permit to open a part time gun shop in his home. He was turned down by the city because he lived in the gun free school zone.
  6. rustycrusty

    rustycrusty Member

    I am new to this forum, but I'm not shy to express myself when it comes to gun issues.
    Does anyone remember Pearl,Ms. school shooting? It no air time on the big 3 networks cause the vice-principal heard the first two shots ran to his truck
    (parked on the street cause of this dumb law) got his Colt .45 Officers model and confronted the student and stopped what cuold have been a bad situation.

    For his bravery the powers that be were considering bringing charges against him! Then they realized they would be prosecuting a man that most in the community thought a hero.
  7. aussierogue

    aussierogue New Member

    Not being a weapons owner ( But i will be soon ) i think gun free zones only help the bad guys as they know noone is there to stop them

  8. allmons

    allmons New Member

    Absolutely !

    There's a reason these crazed killers never tackle a police station or National Guard Armory - armed people would blow them out of their socks in a New York Minute!

    Proof positive these cowards want unarmed victims!

  9. bkt

    bkt New Member

    Areas where people are known to be armed are rarely if ever targeted by criminals precisely because the people can and will defend themselves. Areas known to be "gun-free" are very frequently targeted by criminals precisely because the people cannot defend themselves.

    The logic is obvious and clear.

    But the trick is getting "gun haters" to look at the facts and get over their irrational fear and hatred of guns, which they still think is the only real problem; the criminals wouldn't be criminals if guns weren't available, they say.

    They want more gun control laws even though criminals won't obey the laws. They want to "feel safe" in "gun free" zones even though the people they are around are law-abiding citizens who mean them no harm.

    Between Hollywood (particularly kid's movies), mindless celebrities, daytime TV talk show hosts, schools (particularly grade schools), and liberal media all spouting the same anti-gun messages, getting people to reconsider their long-reinforced views will be a difficult thing to do.
  10. huckleberry

    huckleberry Member

    Its like i told my friends as we were watching the news after the virginia tech shootings... "all it would have taken is one person with one gun and one bullet to save a lot of lives." I do not understand how anyone could support the outlaw of firearms. i'm a 20 year old kid and i understand the importance of being armed in todays society, why do the well educated politicians not get it?:confused:
  11. rev-arb

    rev-arb New Member

    Why won't there be guns in the hands of trained professionals in schools......because libs run the schools.
  12. pioneer461

    pioneer461 New Member

    I'm not certain they "encourage" shootings, but they sure as heck "facilitate" them. What the Air Force calls a "target rich environment," where no-body will be shooting back.

    The news media on the other hand, does encourage mass shootings, by giving the shooters their 15 minutes (+) of fame. There is hardly a day that goes by when we don't hear about some kid who wants to copy-cat Columbine.

  13. ChuckMc1

    ChuckMc1 New Member

    If you want to understand liberals, we can look at our old friend Jimmy Carter... after admitting that he owns several guns he rambled on about people that want to own guns just wanting to shoot cops or do a Columbine style shooting... so knowbody should own guns... well, on second thought, just hit yourself in the head with a sledge hammer about 10 times and then maybe you can understand where they are coming from. :(
  14. lukeisme

    lukeisme New Member

    I have three boys in school. I sat them down and asked them what they thought about their teachers being armed. I know how I feel about it but since they are the ones in that situation I wanted to ask them. All three of them were overwhelming in their support for the teachers to have weapons in school. I carry everywhere I go that is allowed by law. They know that and they feel more secure with that. My 10 year old even pointed out that students would be less likely to attack at a school full of guns and in the hands of someone who was trained to use them.My 16 year old pointed out that while they have a deputy there at all times how many bullets can be fired before he or she can react? Now I have raised my kids that it is a duty and honor to protect those that you love. It is an honor to shape the minds of young people. I feel that way with my boys. These young people that are shooting up schools I believe were never taught to respect a firearm much less anyone around them. I could be wrong cause the world is full of sick dogs but thats the way they should be treated too. To me and my three boys "Gun Free Zones" are just a way to make people more vulnerable. No child should ever have to feel like he or she is in danger. I think that laws are made with haste and emotion. I know when I hear about kids getting hurt it makes me literally sick to my stomach!!!! :mad:
  15. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

    "An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity."
  16. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

    Look I work in a elementary school and you should have sen some of the eyes when I pull out my Kershaw OSO Sweet and flick it open. They have said do you carry that everyday. Yes except for the days I forget to put it on.
  17. pagj17

    pagj17 Well-Known Member

    Quoted for Truth:)
  18. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

    Quoted for old thread that has been rehashed all over again...:mad:
  19. pagj17

    pagj17 Well-Known Member

    oh well too late now:)
  20. gwk4667

    gwk4667 New Member

    What most people are missing is after someone is elected to POWER they need more and more to maintain the hi they got ( yes just like a drug ) when elected.

    One way to get that hi is to exert more power over their subjects - - - yes they look at the electoriate as subjects to be controled!

    I think most of them realise the truth of firearms in compitent hands but they feel they have the only compitent hands around!

    Remember "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

    I attended Martinsville High School in the early 1960s and if I wanted to go rabbit ( or squirl or quale ) hunting with a buddy after school I would place my shotgun or rifle behind the bus drivers seat, at school the teacher would keep it behind his ( or her ) desk.

    In hunting season you would see several students wearing hunting vest with skinning knives in tact. We never had an incident. Now no weapons ( not even pocket knives ) are allowed and they just had a shooting about 6 months ago.

    No one would have considered anything like that back then as they would be sure it would not end well for them!
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2011